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xiao hong ni...

by odarwin » Dec 18th, '08, 03:07

hi guys,

anyone who has info on what xiao hong ni is?
i know its another type of yi xing clay,
but can any one tell us more about its properties? appearance and etc..?

-darwin

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Re: xiao hong ni...

by xuancheng » Dec 18th, '08, 04:48

odarwin wrote:hi guys,

anyone who has info on what xiao hong ni is?
i know its another type of yi xing clay,
but can any one tell us more about its properties? appearance and etc..?

-darwin
"During the 1950s, in Buchuan Chalin, and then in smaller wharf in Pudong Xiaobutou as well as other places a replacement was found for Shihuang: Xiaohongni. Xiaohongni is found in the late Paleozoic Devonian strata directly underneath the Maoshan layer of rock. The appearance of this material is light yellow-green in color and usually a dense block, it is a yellow green sandy clay rock, mostly clay in composition. Its mineral composition has been identified through electron microscopy as: illite, kaolinite, iron oxide, quartz and white mica. Hongni, has a similar chemical composition, mineral composition and similar performance in ceramics."

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by chrl42 » Dec 18th, '08, 06:57

Darwin, how's your Taobao business going? :)

Xiao Hongni is good clay favored by factory no.1.
Birth place of Xiao Hongni might need more data and analysis as that is nature of Yixing clay..

I often found Xiao Hongni from stores as smooth, orange-ish clay that sellers cared over Da Hongni or Hongni or whatever... good clay anyway.

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by odarwin » Dec 18th, '08, 11:20

thanks for the info guys!

some more question:

1.)is xiao hong ni a "pure clay" where its not the common practice to mix it with other clay to immitate "real xiao hong ni"?

2.)is xiao hong ni a clay that's usually "misrepresented" like the other clays... for example the ben shan lv ni, and modern zhu ni that some sellers sell as lao zhu ni or real zhu ni?

3.)is the raw material for xiao hong ni expensive compared to the other clay types used to make yixing teapots?

chrl... i purchased the 2 shui ping hu's from a taobao vendor. the 2 shui pings are of the same clay, same capacity, same potter, but a bit different in style. one is flatter, and one is taller. its with my cousin in beijing now, and he will be coming over for the hollidays, ill try to post pics as soon as i can. as for the beautiful xi shi, too bad they dont have stock anymore.

for the xiao hong ni, i took a dive and bought one from jing tea shop. after reading good things about them, so why not try... specifically the small pear shape pot. its on its way to beijing now, to hitch a ride back to manila with my cousin. i often came accross xiao hong ni back when i was in china, but i never got to own one.

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by chrl42 » Dec 19th, '08, 23:45

odarwin wrote:thanks for the info guys!

some more question:

1.)is xiao hong ni a "pure clay" where its not the common practice to mix it with other clay to immitate "real xiao hong ni"?

2.)is xiao hong ni a clay that's usually "misrepresented" like the other clays... for example the ben shan lv ni, and modern zhu ni that some sellers sell as lao zhu ni or real zhu ni?

3.)is the raw material for xiao hong ni expensive compared to the other clay types used to make yixing teapots?

chrl... i purchased the 2 shui ping hu's from a taobao vendor. the 2 shui pings are of the same clay, same capacity, same potter, but a bit different in style. one is flatter, and one is taller. its with my cousin in beijing now, and he will be coming over for the hollidays, ill try to post pics as soon as i can. as for the beautiful xi shi, too bad they dont have stock anymore.

for the xiao hong ni, i took a dive and bought one from jing tea shop. after reading good things about them, so why not try... specifically the small pear shape pot. its on its way to beijing now, to hitch a ride back to manila with my cousin. i often came accross xiao hong ni back when i was in china, but i never got to own one.
1) name itself doesn't suggest any trace of mixing (Pin Zini, Muo Luni for exception)

2)i dont think ppl mess around with xiao hongni much as zhuni, benshan, duanni etc

3)xiao hongni is a good clay, good clays are mostly prefered by potters so consumed early days so pricy.


good to hear Taobao business goin well, hope to see from Show your pot thread :)

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by britt » Dec 20th, '08, 11:17

odarwin wrote:for the xiao hong ni, i took a dive and bought one from jing tea shop. after reading good things about them, so why not try... specifically the small pear shape pot. its on its way to beijing now, to hitch a ride back to manila with my cousin. i often came accross xiao hong ni back when i was in china, but i never got to own one.
I think you made an excellent choice with that particular Yixing as well as the vendor. I have been very satisfied with the seven Yixings I purchased from Jing. So much so that I have three more in transit from their last couple of postings. So far they've all worked well with Jing's recommended tea pairings. I'm not an expert by any means, but some of the clay on their Yixings seem to be exceptionally high in quality.

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by odarwin » Dec 21st, '08, 11:13

chrl...

based on your answers, it seems at thou few potters mess with xiao hong ni... it might be a safe clay to go with after all...

britt...

if i remembered correctly, it was your review that nailed it to lead me to try jing tea shop... ive been looking at their site for a long time now, and there have been a few other pots that ive been wanting to buy. the little pear pot was just right on the budget for a first trial purchase. i hope it indeed doesnt dissapoint.


anyone tried ordering the "30 year mud" pot from dragon tea house?
any comments? reviews? is it really 30 year old clay used?
i have one, and it really does "blush" a bit now after using it everyday for one month.

-darwin

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by britt » Dec 27th, '08, 19:56

odarwin wrote:britt...

if i remembered correctly, it was your review that nailed it to lead me to try jing tea shop... ive been looking at their site for a long time now, and there have been a few other pots that ive been wanting to buy. the little pear pot was just right on the budget for a first trial purchase. i hope it indeed doesnt dissapoint.

-darwin
You are wise to purchase just one moderately priced Yixing first if you're not familiar with the vendor. I did the same thing, then one more, then one more, and finally after seven of them I no longer hesitate to buy more expensive ones or to order several at a time. Although I'm happy with all of them, I think the best purchases were actually the more expensive ones, making me believe not only that Jing's tea pairing recommendations are right-on, but that you really do get more when you pay more. However, I have no complaints with their cheapest offerings either, as these have worked out very well and are still used regularly.

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by gingkoseto » Dec 27th, '08, 21:05

britt wrote:
odarwin wrote:britt...

if i remembered correctly, it was your review that nailed it to lead me to try jing tea shop... ive been looking at their site for a long time now, and there have been a few other pots that ive been wanting to buy. the little pear pot was just right on the budget for a first trial purchase. i hope it indeed doesnt dissapoint.

-darwin
You are wise to purchase just one moderately priced Yixing first if you're not familiar with the vendor. I did the same thing, then one more, then one more, and finally after seven of them I no longer hesitate to buy more expensive ones or to order several at a time. Although I'm happy with all of them, I think the best purchases were actually the more expensive ones, making me believe not only that Jing's tea pairing recommendations are right-on, but that you really do get more when you pay more. However, I have no complaints with their cheapest offerings either, as these have worked out very well and are still used regularly.
How about summarizing a good sellers list of taobao? :D
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