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by TaiPing Hou Kui » Feb 1st, '09, 00:03

Anybody ever had their chasen split up the sides??? It isnt broken...yet....but there are two small splits on each side of the handle stemming up from where all the tines are. I have been cleaning it with warm water after each use and leaving it to dry on its chasen stand....I suppose maybe I just got a bad one? I havent had it happen before...I just figured since this one is 120 tines it should last a while..

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by Geekgirl » Feb 1st, '09, 00:07

The bamboo possibly wasn't properly dried and tied, or else you are getting it too wet each time you wash. The repeated wetting and drying would eventually crack the bamboo.

As a side note, I don't "wash" mine, exactly. When I make matcha, I preheat the bowl with hot water, and place the chasen tines down in the water for 30 seconds or so, before I use it.

Then after I'm done whisking, I rinse the tines (and only the tines) with COLD water for a few seconds, making sure I can't see any matcha powder on the tines before I place it on the holder.

I could probably make a picture if that doesn't make sense.

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by TaiPing Hou Kui » Feb 1st, '09, 00:40

Yeah that is exactly what I do as well....I never get the "handle" wet...only the tines.....I must have just gotten a bad one.....I mean, it still works just fine, I just fear it is going to split all the way relatively soon.

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by Space Samurai » Feb 1st, '09, 00:47

Yeah, one of mine has split a bit on one side, its not a big deal yet. I've always had the impression that chasen are somewhat impermanent.

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by TaiPing Hou Kui » Feb 1st, '09, 00:56

Yeah...I mean, I have seen tines crack, split, break after much use. I just got this one brand new the other day. I suppose as long as it doesent split completely ad can still whisk matcha properly I have nothing to complain about other than the aesthetics.

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by Oni » Feb 1st, '09, 01:52

Maiko sells some special chasens, made of the right japanese bamboo, not chinese fake, I have 120 pon chasen, bought from Horaido teashop, and it has no problem.

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by TaiPing Hou Kui » Feb 1st, '09, 02:12

Well, I got mine from a VERY reliable source......I know it was made of Japanese bamboo in Japan......I just think I got unlucky.......

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by olivierco » Feb 1st, '09, 04:41

Space Samurai wrote:Yeah, one of mine has split a bit on one side, its not a big deal yet. I've always had the impression that chasen are somewhat impermanent.
Chasen Kuyo is the ceremony for retiring the chasen, or bamboo wisk, that becomes worn out after many uses during the Japanese Tea Ceremony. Prevailing custom is to burn the chasen in a sacred fire and if there is a clear stream nearby, to cast the ashes upon the waters.

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by Space Samurai » Feb 1st, '09, 05:24

Oni wrote:Maiko sells some special chasens, made of the right japanese bamboo, not chinese fake, I have 120 pon chasen, bought from Horaido teashop, and it has no problem.
TaiPing Hou Kui wrote:Well, I got mine from a VERY reliable source......I know it was made of Japanese bamboo in Japan......I just think I got unlucky.......
Like wise. Mine was made in Kyoto by Kubo Tsuneji...not a Chinese fake.

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by Oni » Feb 1st, '09, 05:29

If you are searching the very top quality chasen, look for susudake chasen, that is made out of bamboo that has been above a fireplace for many years, and it hardened by smoke, and dark color, but it cost a lot, expect above 100 $.

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by tenuki » Feb 1st, '09, 05:32

My chasen has lasted for a year of moderate use so far and I got it at Daiso for 3 dollars. You guys are weird.
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by xuancheng » Feb 1st, '09, 07:08

You should tie a decorative string around the handle tightly so that it can't continue to split.

I saw the picture you posted of it, and it looks like a really nice one (not that I would know...) Sorry it split so soon.

what I was thinking of is a West Country Shear Lashing, just on the handle instead of joining two pieces together. When done carefully it looks very nice. Here is a small picture

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by chingwa » Feb 1st, '09, 08:13

I think a cracked Chasen would exude an amazing wabi-sabi feeling. :D

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by Geekgirl » Feb 1st, '09, 11:52

tenuki wrote:My chasen has lasted for a year of moderate use so far and I got it at Daiso for 3 dollars. You guys are weird.
Mine cost $4 at Daiso, those gougers! :wink:

The one I use at work is the Daiso version. I don't even store it on a holder, but 7 months (?) and it still looks fine.

The one I use at home is a "made in Japan" from Uwajimaya, and cost $16. I think they are $18 now. I have an unused back up that I got with a matcha set, pretty sure it's a cheapo.

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by Geekgirl » Feb 1st, '09, 11:53

xuancheng wrote:You should tie a decorative string around the handle tightly so that it can't continue to split.
That's what I was thinking!

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