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Too Far: Yet Another Rant

by brandon » Feb 10th, '09, 18:38

Sorry to continue the trend of using ITD as a sounding board for rants. I usually manage to stay relatively quiet on these long rant threads.

I have remained mostly mildly amused at the total detachment from reality that has occurred over the last few months in the puerh forum -- I can see now how puerh has cultivated a bogus speculative bubble in Asia, it must make people lose their minds!

On thread A (http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=8252) a user asks for suggestions on samples of aged sheng. Fair enough, she has never tasted older shengs and wants to build her palate. I was happy to provide her with advice and even ignore the fact that she couldn't find the sample I recommended when pointed straight at it.

A few minutes later I read another thread (http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t=8287) where the same user who has never tasted sheng older than a few years is advising someone else on the best type of wood to use in a humidor for aging tea.

User B then thanked user A for her seemingly knowledgeable advice on the topic.
You can read countless puerh experts living in Asia tell you either that this sort of thing is unknowable, or offer conflicting advice. I don't know how people can pontificate about such a thing if they have never even tasted the stuff.

Noise is drowning out signal in the most horrible ways...

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Re: Too Far: Yet Another Rant

by Wesli » Feb 10th, '09, 18:56

brandon wrote:You can read countless puerh experts living in Asia tell you either that this sort of thing is unknowable, or offer conflicting advice.
Shoot, even I could tell you that, and I stopped reading the oh so helpful pu-erh forum a long time ago.

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by brandon » Feb 10th, '09, 19:00

The denizens of the puerh forum don't bother to read anything written by professionals and long time collectors in Asia, they gather "wisdom" by collectively buying every pesticide covered 2008 plantation tea from an unknown factory they can get their hands on. This is fine by me, it isn't my money or body. But it seems like more and more users are being led around by people who seem to qualify themselves simply by post count and number of dishonestly labeled samples they have dug into.

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by Pentox » Feb 10th, '09, 19:05

c'mon over to the green side.

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by hop_goblin » Feb 10th, '09, 20:41

Why don't you think I don't contribute as much as I used to in the Pu forum. Most of those guys wouldn't know one mountain from another, spring from fall, plantation from arbor. Most of all, for some reason they tend to think that all pu is great with little to no discrimination. Joke. They are wasting their money.. I don't believe that half the shit they buy is going to age.
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by TIM » Feb 10th, '09, 21:16

Pentox wrote:c'mon over to the green side.
Oolong selection is worst.... Btw. So I would jump into the green, or black :?

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by Proinsias » Feb 10th, '09, 21:25

Pentox wrote:c'mon over to the green side.
Yeah, come on over. There's less friction when people are discussing tupperware and fridges than when they talk about wooden boxes and cupboards.

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by Sydney » Feb 10th, '09, 21:52

Proinsias wrote:
Pentox wrote:c'mon over to the green side.
Yeah, come on over. There's less friction when people are discussing tupperware and fridges than when they talk about wooden boxes and cupboards.
Let's not gloss over the Chinese/Japanese faction wars. :roll:

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by fencerdenoctum » Feb 11th, '09, 00:01

Selecting pu is easy for me. I just wait till you guys send it to me. *wink*

Also, black tea drinkers get top hats. 'sayin.

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by Space Samurai » Feb 11th, '09, 01:19

el padre wrote:
Let's not gloss over the Chinese/Japanese faction wars. :roll:
There's no war, just those who have been enlightened and those who haven't figured out how to brew sencha yet. 8)

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by hop_goblin » Feb 11th, '09, 08:37

Space Samurai wrote:
el padre wrote:
Let's not gloss over the Chinese/Japanese faction wars. :roll:
There's no war, just those who have been enlightened and those who haven't figured out how to brew sencha yet. 8)

heheh

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by bearsbearsbears » Feb 11th, '09, 13:21

I was going to post a reply to this, but I would rather express myself through interpretive smilies:

:shock:

:?

:roll:

:cry:

:x

:lol:

:D

:arrow:

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by Pentox » Feb 11th, '09, 13:28

I wasn't even aware there was much of a chinese/japanese fissure. The asa/fuka wars are much more intense.

ASA 4 PREZ

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by Sydney » Feb 11th, '09, 13:50

Pentox wrote:I wasn't even aware there was much of a chinese/japanese fissure. The asa/fuka wars are much more intense.

ASA 4 PREZ
You have to be at least a 32nd Degree TEAmason to know much about the conflict. But any in the guild are allowed to know of its existence. 8)

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by Chip » Feb 11th, '09, 14:27

I never knew ...

:lol:

So let me understand this, are any TC regs in the Pu forum these days?
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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