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first Japanese pot - help me decide

by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 18:28

I want to buy a small pot for Japanese green teas. I searched along some sites and am know between two pots.

The first:

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190 ml (6.4oz) teapot


the second:

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120 ml (4oz.) kyusu

both from yuuki-cha.com.

But somehow I like them both and can't really decide which one to take.
I think both are capable of brewing good Senshas and Gyokuro.

Any advice, tips or better suggestion would be welcome.

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by Chip » Feb 28th, '09, 18:33

If you are going to brew sencha, you want the handle! The first pot is for lower brewing temps of gyokuro. 170* and hotter is too hot to not have a handle.
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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by Geekgirl » Feb 28th, '09, 18:39

agree! second one, it is more versatile, in spite of its small size.

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by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 19:15

Thank you both for your advice, never thought of that ;)

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by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 20:13

Just found a little nice Kyusu from a German site:

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160ml(5.4oz.)

Quite nice but a bit expensive ( about 96$)

The advantages would be fast free shipping and local customer support.
Do you think it is worth the prize?

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by Chip » Feb 28th, '09, 20:28

Generally low flatter kyusu are best for gyokuro, the fact that this is smaller supports this. You can brew sencha in it, but it would be best for gyokuro brewing.

You can buy cheaper ones, but you can also buy more expensive. Only you can ultimately decide if it is worth it. I think you can do better for the price.
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 20:55

hm I think you're right. For that prize I can buy two on ebay incl. shipping.

Can you explain me why a flatter kyusu/pot is better for gyokuro and a higher for sensha? Or just post me link where I can get some infos on it :)

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by Chip » Feb 28th, '09, 21:02

A flatter pot loses heat faster, gyokuro prefers colder water, a premium gyokuro will prefer 135* F or even less.

Sencha likes it hotter, around 170* F. Thus a taller or more rounded pot is desirable.

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by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 21:07

thanks, simple and understandable :D

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by Sydney » Feb 28th, '09, 21:42

Of the ones you've shown, the side-handled pot looks like a pretty solid choice for reasons already stated here. I've looked at that one, myself.

But by the time I made my way to yuuki-cha, I'd acquired... other addictions. mmm matcha

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by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 21:46

el padre wrote:But by the time I made my way to yuuki-cha, I'd acquired... other addictions. mmm matcha
Matcha-set plus "Organic Uji Matcha Yuuki Midori" already in my shopping cart :)

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by Sydney » Feb 28th, '09, 21:55

If you're doing matcha at that site, you might also consider Yame matcha.

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by Randoom » Feb 28th, '09, 21:59

I've never tried matcha before. The one I posted had some good reviews, so I put this one in but I am open to some good advise :)

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by pedantic » Mar 1st, '09, 02:33

Chip wrote:A flatter pot loses heat faster, gyokuro prefers colder water, a premium gyokuro will prefer 135* F or even less.

Sencha likes it hotter, around 170* F. Thus a taller or more rounded pot is desirable.
Shouldn't a more spherical pot work with gyokuro as well, as long as you were careful with the water temperature going into the pot in the first place? Wouldn't the only difference between it and the flatter pot be how quickly the pots lose heat?

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by Oni » Mar 1st, '09, 02:47

Try artisticnippon , for a tokoname kyusu, there are truly better kyusus there than the ones you have shown, if you buy a lower quality now, after a time you`ll decide to buy a real nice one you will notice that your old kyusu is absolite, better try a kyusu with a clay filter, and handmade one.

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