My father asked an interesting question that made me realize that I don't have much knowledge about kettles. He's getting an induction stove, and has to replace his stovetop kettle because his current one is made for gas burners. So the question is whether to get another stovetop kettle for the induction stove, or get an electric kettle.
I've heard a fair amount about the induction "hot plate" type kettles, mainly that they boil water quite quickly, but I don't know if induction stoves put out the same power.
When it comes to electric kettles, I've been using my Zoji for years now and don't really know much about what else is out there. I have a cheap Kamjove that I got for the controlled pour (and more occasional use), but I understand that they aren't very durable. Unfortunately there are a lot of kettles out there that aren't very durable, often crapping out after about 3 months.
So the question is which would you use, and if you would go with an electric kettle do you know of an electric kettle that is good and durable?
These will be used more for western style brewing, so things like a tightly controlled pour wouldn't be a major consideration.
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I was interested in using a Tetsubin on an induction hotplate. The tetsubin, to sutbly change the water, the induction cooktop to be energy efficent.
There is a thread that covers some of this:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?p=100189
There are glass tea kettles with a metal coating on the bottom for use on induction cooktops.
A quick google search found a "Demeyere" induction kettle.
The energy saving is not going to be fantastic, so compare the cost of a induction specific kettle vs electric kettle.
Realisticly, if he is not really concerned with the esoterics of water metal fire in relation to tea, an electric kettle would be great. I like the fact mine auto shuts off.
There is a thread that covers some of this:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?p=100189
There are glass tea kettles with a metal coating on the bottom for use on induction cooktops.
A quick google search found a "Demeyere" induction kettle.
The energy saving is not going to be fantastic, so compare the cost of a induction specific kettle vs electric kettle.
Realisticly, if he is not really concerned with the esoterics of water metal fire in relation to tea, an electric kettle would be great. I like the fact mine auto shuts off.
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The thing is that we're not talking about a hotplate, but a full kitchen stove. So the question is whether it's worth getting an electric kettle instead of using the induction stove. I don't know if the full stove is going to boil as quickly as the hotplates made for boiling water in kettles.
I'm also sure that he's not going to be interested in something like a tetsubin for the induction stove, if that's the way to go. If so he'll probably want something that's just practical but perhaps nice.
I'm also sure that he's not going to be interested in something like a tetsubin for the induction stove, if that's the way to go. If so he'll probably want something that's just practical but perhaps nice.
you can get a higher wattage with a "range" cooktop, compared to hot plate size. Depending on stove top, you can get 3000w. Which is a lot.
I was recommending the kind of kettle with the element in it, and the plug is in the base, so there is no hot plate, no cord on the bit you pour the water from. I think it is very simple to use, especially, since I tend to walk away and let it auto shut off. Induction can autoshut off, but it is auto shut off to prevent pan from melting, not when water boils.
This is similar to what I use:

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/De ... oduct.html
I was recommending the kind of kettle with the element in it, and the plug is in the base, so there is no hot plate, no cord on the bit you pour the water from. I think it is very simple to use, especially, since I tend to walk away and let it auto shut off. Induction can autoshut off, but it is auto shut off to prevent pan from melting, not when water boils.
This is similar to what I use:

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/De ... oduct.html
It depends on whether or not he wants a dedicated water boiling appliance. He can get an electric kettle for about $50 or so that will use less electricity to boil water than the stove would. Or he can use the whistling stove top kettle that he probably already has.
I have an electric range and recently went with an electric thermo pot for convenience and to save money on power costs.
I have an electric range and recently went with an electric thermo pot for convenience and to save money on power costs.
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So then can you guys recommend a kettle that won't die out in 3 months?
I personally prefer the electric kettle myself. I use a Zoji and a Kamjove. My only problem with recommending an electric kettle is recommending one that will actually hold up for a while. Most of the ones I've had don't last that long, with the exception of the Zoji. That's also part of why I say that I only use my Kamjove for occasional use.
I personally prefer the electric kettle myself. I use a Zoji and a Kamjove. My only problem with recommending an electric kettle is recommending one that will actually hold up for a while. Most of the ones I've had don't last that long, with the exception of the Zoji. That's also part of why I say that I only use my Kamjove for occasional use.
Thanks, I didn't realize that they vary. I don't know if he already got it or not (I don't think so), but if not then I can bring that to his attention.you can get a higher wattage with a "range" cooktop, compared to hot plate size. Depending on stove top, you can get 3000w. Which is a lot.
If it is a question of speed, no need to buy any kettle. It takes only 55s to bring 300ml (10oz) of water to a full boil on my induction stove.ABx wrote:The thing is that we're not talking about a hotplate, but a full kitchen stove. So the question is whether it's worth getting an electric kettle instead of using the induction stove. I don't know if the full stove is going to boil as quickly as the hotplates made for boiling water in kettles.
I'm also sure that he's not going to be interested in something like a tetsubin for the induction stove, if that's the way to go. If so he'll probably want something that's just practical but perhaps nice.
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Excellent, thanks. Do you use something like a tetsubin, or a standard whistling kettle, or...?olivierco wrote:If it is a question of speed, no need to buy any kettle. It takes only 55s to bring 300ml (10oz) of water to a full boil on my induction stove.ABx wrote:The thing is that we're not talking about a hotplate, but a full kitchen stove. So the question is whether it's worth getting an electric kettle instead of using the induction stove. I don't know if the full stove is going to boil as quickly as the hotplates made for boiling water in kettles.
I'm also sure that he's not going to be interested in something like a tetsubin for the induction stove, if that's the way to go. If so he'll probably want something that's just practical but perhaps nice.