Steamed Chinese Greens?

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Steamed Chinese Greens?

by woozl » May 5th, '09, 15:17

Have any of you Japanese tea heads tried either of these;
http://www.teaspring.com/En-Shi-Yu-Lu.asp
or
http://www.teaspring.com/Song-Luo-Nen-Hao.asp


Both are steamed to stop fermentation as opposed to panfried.
I'm making up an order for teaspring and I'm looking for a couple of other greens....
Any input on this years fresh tea, or recommends, from these guys would be appreciated.

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Re: Steamed Chinese Greens?

by Chip » May 5th, '09, 17:03

woozl wrote:Have any of you Japanese tea heads tried either of these;
http://www.teaspring.com/En-Shi-Yu-Lu.asp
or
http://www.teaspring.com/Song-Luo-Nen-Hao.asp


Both are steamed to stop fermentation as opposed to panfried.
I'm making up an order for teaspring and I'm looking for a couple of other greens....
Any input on this years fresh tea, or recommends, from these guys would be appreciated.
Song Lou was perhaps the most unique green for me in 2006 when I got it from TS. They say it resembles Japanese greens, but is it steamed? I was not aware of that. I would consider reordering it. But not a lot ...

En-Shi-Yu-Lu, I have never tried, but if I was placing a TS order, I would at least try it.
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Re: Steamed Chinese Greens?

by woozl » May 5th, '09, 17:31

Chip wrote:.

En-Shi-Yu-Lu, I have never tried, but if I was placing a TS order, I would at least try it.
Hmmm, En-Shi-Yu-Lu, is still last year's.
I may try the other as it is '09....Either way I'll let ya know....
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by Ed » May 5th, '09, 20:00

The En Shi Yu Lu is pretty good. The dry leaf has a very complex aroma. If you brew it fairly strong you will get a good cup of tea. Just don't expect it to taste like sencha, or you will be very disappointed.

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by woozl » May 5th, '09, 20:11

No no, not expecting a sencha experience.
Sounds good...
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by Ritva » May 6th, '09, 03:44

I've had Teaspring En Shi Yu Lu and I liked it. To me its taste had some resemblance to sencha but it also had sort of buttery note.

Jing Tea Shop is offering extremely cheap ($2.99/100g!!!) Early Spring Bai Sha Lu 2009 http://www.jingteashop.com/pd-green-tea-baishalu.cfm that is said to be steamed. I don't know if it's any good but I added it to my order just because of the price. I can drink it at work.

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by ErikaM » May 6th, '09, 11:40

I have En Shi Yu Lu here. It's good, kind of different... as if a Chinese green and Japanese green got together and had a love child. :mrgreen: The taste is more that of a Chinese green. I won't reorder when this pack runs out, because for the money I'd rather have either a typical Chinese green or a sencha. But that's just my personal taste.

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by Oni » May 6th, '09, 13:23

There is a hungarian saying: cheap meat has thin juice.

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by gingkoseto » Jun 1st, '09, 14:07

Ritva wrote:I've had Teaspring En Shi Yu Lu and I liked it. To me its taste had some resemblance to sencha but it also had sort of buttery note.

Jing Tea Shop is offering extremely cheap ($2.99/100g!!!) Early Spring Bai Sha Lu 2009 http://www.jingteashop.com/pd-green-tea-baishalu.cfm that is said to be steamed. I don't know if it's any good but I added it to my order just because of the price. I can drink it at work.
Ha! I remember this thread and happened to ordered some of this cheap Bai Sha Lu in my last order. Now it has arrived. I tried it twice. It's actually pretty good. I have yet to find out how this tea is made. It tastes to me more like a sun-dried green (shai qing) instead of steamed green, and the taste reminds me of sheng puerh. When brewed in hot water, the taste is initially very pleasant but subtle, and soon got bitter. I did grandpa style but guess even Japanese style will still result in bitter taste, however it's the kind of bitterness that some people may even like.
Today I did cold brew with this tea (which I do a lot recently with a few bitter tea) and like the result very much. Its flavor is very rich compared with cold brew of some other Chinese green and it tastes like sweet grass with only gentle, pleasant bitterness.
From the taste, I believe this tea is very healthy (antioxidants and good to digestive system, etc.). The price is a lot more expensive than price in China for the same tea, but $2.99 is already a low figure so no more bargain hunting needed :D
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by Ritva » Jun 2nd, '09, 09:02

gingko wrote: Ha! I remember this thread and happened to ordered some of this cheap Bai Sha Lu in my last order. Now it has arrived. I tried it twice. It's actually pretty good. I have yet to find out how this tea is made. It tastes to me more like a sun-dried green (shai qing) instead of steamed green, and the taste reminds me of sheng puerh. When brewed in hot water, the taste is initially very pleasant but subtle, and soon got bitter. I did grandpa style but guess even Japanese style will still result in bitter taste, however it's the kind of bitterness that some people may even like.
Today I did cold brew with this tea (which I do a lot recently with a few bitter tea) and like the result very much. Its flavor is very rich compared with cold brew of some other Chinese green and it tastes like sweet grass with only gentle, pleasant bitterness.
From the taste, I believe this tea is very healthy (antioxidants and good to digestive system, etc.). The price is a lot more expensive than price in China for the same tea, but $2.99 is already a low figure so no more bargain hunting needed :D
I have been drinking Bai Sha Lu at work like I intented to and it's been ok. Hungarians and Oni are of course right,
Oni wrote:There is a hungarian saying: cheap meat has thin juice.
but I would like to mention a Finnish saying "The dog has barked its price". It refers to olden times when hunting was very popular and often done with the help of a dog that would locate the game and then start barking so that hunter could follow it. If you bought a cheap dog you couldn't expect miraculous success but you did get some prey...

I've been brewing Bai Sha Lu using a reasonable amount of leaves and shortish times (1-1.5 min). Since I can't measure water temperature at work (and the temperature varies according to who put the kettle on and when) I can't give precise values but I think it's been around 70-85C. I get sort of sencha-like brisk taste that I rather enjoy. If the brewing time is any longer the tea gets awfully bitter.

I also wonder if the tea is steamed because the color of the leaves is rather greyish green. All the steamed teas I've seen so far have had striking green leaves. However, the taste of Bai Sha Lu is much stronger than taste of pan-fired chinese greens and it doesn't have that nutty taste that I connect to pan-fired greens.

Anyway, it was very cheap and reasonably good, but I doubt I'll order it again. I'm craving for drinking japanese greens at work as well...

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