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Best Kettle for brewing Japanese Green tea?

by malmstrom » Jun 16th, '09, 06:01

Hi all,

I'm thinking of buying a kettle for my drinking sessions :)
But I have some doubt about the kind. I've already read some posts about kettles, but I feel a bit confused :S

I would like to uderstand which of these kettles best suits japanese green tea brewing:

iron kettle
pottery kettle
purion kettle

I think that the iron kettle is the best, but I'm concerning about toxicity of high intake of iron. It's possible?

Lin's ceramic team answered me that pottery series and purion series both suits well, but how much well it could be the purion one? They didn't say me.
The pottery and purion also contain irons??

Considering the costs, the purion kettle is more or less the same of an iron kettle, the pottery one is cheaper.

Please help me decide :P
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Marco

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Re: Best Kettle for brewing Japanese Green tea?

by olivierco » Jun 16th, '09, 06:55

malmstrom wrote:
I think that the iron kettle is the best, but I'm concerning about toxicity of high intake of iron. It's possible?
It is highly improbable.

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by Oni » Jun 16th, '09, 07:11

Activated iron nanbu or yamagata casting tetsubin, or silver ginbin. For tetsubin check artisticnippon, and hojotea.

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Re: Best Kettle for brewing Japanese Green tea?

by malmstrom » Jun 16th, '09, 07:54

olivierco wrote:
malmstrom wrote:
I think that the iron kettle is the best, but I'm concerning about toxicity of high intake of iron. It's possible?
It is highly improbable.
Thanks, I'm saying that because exists iron toxicity, it's well documented in scientific literature. I dunno if the teapot release iron in the water or not.
What do you know about?

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Re: Best Kettle for brewing Japanese Green tea?

by olivierco » Jun 16th, '09, 08:55

malmstrom wrote:
Thanks, I'm saying that because exists iron toxicity, it's well documented in scientific literature. I dunno if the teapot release iron in the water or not.
What do you know about?
First of all the fact that most kettles sold in Japan are iron kettles, considering the huge number of tea drinkers and the high standard of health regulations in Japan.
Secondly assuming you take a good care of your kettle, it shouldn't release great quantities of iron.
Lastly, tea has been described to limit iron absorption.

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Re: Best Kettle for brewing Japanese Green tea?

by hooksie » Jun 16th, '09, 09:08

malmstrom wrote:
olivierco wrote:
malmstrom wrote:
I think that the iron kettle is the best, but I'm concerning about toxicity of high intake of iron. It's possible?
It is highly improbable.
Thanks, I'm saying that because exists iron toxicity, it's well documented in scientific literature. I dunno if the teapot release iron in the water or not.
What do you know about?
http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/iron.asp#h11

The tolerable upper level of iron per day is 45mg for an adult. I see it exceptionally unlikely that much iron would be leaking into your water from an iron kettle.
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by Tead Off » Jun 16th, '09, 12:24

As others have said, it is highly improbably that tetsubin will be harmful in any way. Just get a new one and follow the instructions for use. Hojotea.com has the most information about tetsubin.

I found the Purion people strictly a marketing organization that could care less about their products except selling them. They don't/can't answer any intelligent questions about the purion series and I really doubt they know much about what goes into them. But, I have heard positive feedback from users of purion series so there seems to be something that these pots have got in them.

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by malmstrom » Jun 16th, '09, 14:06

Thanks Tead for the answer!!!

For now I will order only a Purion water vessels and two cups (only because I don't have them and I like the look, I will report if it does affect the water!!) For the kettle I'm waiting for ispiration! :P

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by Oni » Jun 16th, '09, 14:45

Tead Off wrote:
I found the Purion people strictly a marketing organization that could care less about their products except selling them. They don't/can't answer any intelligent questions about the purion series and I really doubt they know much about what goes into them.
Thanks Tea Off, I contacted them a few month ago, and I was about to order, but after reading you post I got second thoughts about it, you probably saved me from making a wrong turn in my way of tea, I decided to wait a little bit more and gather enough money to buy this >
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Nice, isn`t it, these cutie can be used both with a hisaku for chanoyu and as a kettle for sencha do.

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by malmstrom » Jun 16th, '09, 14:51

Very nice Oni! It's a simple iron kettle or a special one?

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by Oni » Jun 16th, '09, 14:55

These tetsubin that have bronze lids, and deep arare pattern are yamagata casting, this casting region is prefered for the tea ceremony, these bronze lids are a legacy from the kyoto casting, most of the old tetsubins on the colectors market have been casted in kyoto, yamagata and nanbu kettle are activated iron, those that shine are sand iron, these whitish, gray yamagata are my favourite for aestethic reasons.

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by hooksie » Jun 16th, '09, 14:57

malmstrom wrote:Very nice Oni! It's a simple iron kettle or a special one?
It's a tetsubin, the inside is activated.

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by malmstrom » Jun 16th, '09, 15:13

Very intresting Oni!! If it's not a problem can you link me somethig? I'm courioous about!

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by hooksie » Jun 16th, '09, 15:28

malmstrom wrote:Very intresting Oni!! If it's not a problem can you link me somethig? I'm courioous about!
http://hojotea.com/item_e/seikodo.htm
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by Tead Off » Jun 17th, '09, 00:06

Oni wrote:
Tead Off wrote:
I found the Purion people strictly a marketing organization that could care less about their products except selling them. They don't/can't answer any intelligent questions about the purion series and I really doubt they know much about what goes into them.
Thanks Tea Off, I contacted them a few month ago, and I was about to order, but after reading you post I got second thoughts about it, you probably saved me from making a wrong turn in my way of tea, I decided to wait a little bit more and gather enough money to buy this >
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Nice, isn`t it, these cutie can be used both with a hisaku for chanoyu and as a kettle for sencha do.
Oni, I wasn't trying to put anyone off the purion pots. They may indeed be great. I just think that the people making the pots and the people selling the pots are very different. Every time I would ask a question, I would get a vague answer and a hard push to buy something. This is a big and growing company, not mom and pop. They do major trade shows.

That tetsubin is gorgeous.

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