Yong De


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Yong De

Postby puerhking » Oct 26th, '08, 15:56

Im putting together a list of pu's to buy from YS and I was wondering if anyone has tried this one or one of the others. If so how is the quality to price ratio?

Thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-Yong-De-Mang-Fei-Mountain-Wild-Arbor-tea-500g_W0QQitemZ350050933909QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
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Re: Yong De

Postby hop_goblin » Oct 26th, '08, 16:11

puerhking wrote:Im putting together a list of pu's to buy from YS and I was wondering if anyone has tried this one or one of the others. If so how is the quality to price ratio?

Thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-Yong-De-Mang-Fei-Mountain-Wild-Arbor-tea-500g_W0QQitemZ350050933909QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116


Yep, I got a couple of each mountain.. the two that I have tasted so far are good.
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Postby Dizzwave » Oct 27th, '08, 13:04

I got a cake of each mountain too.. Good stuff. And the price is not bad considering that the cakes are 500g.
Looking back in my tasting notes, my fave is probably the Mang Fei, but I'd have to try them all again to make sure.. :)
But I'd say yeah, overall a good buy!
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Postby VinceBLG » Oct 27th, '08, 14:20

I'm awaiting a 2008 Mei Zi Qing currently. I'll post lots of pics and notes when it arrives.
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Postby shogun89 » Oct 27th, '08, 15:15

VinceBLG wrote:I'm awaiting a 2008 Mei Zi Qing currently. I'll post lots of pics and notes when it arrives.


YaY, Pics! We love pics!
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YS list.

Postby Jeremy » Oct 27th, '08, 20:39

Hey just to share it with you. Scott from YS had sent me this list a few weeks ago when I asked him what he thought some of the best selections were. I have not tried any, but its food for thought.

Raw Pu-erh

2008 Menghai "Da Yi Hong" Premium Raw tea cake * 357g

2008 Guoyan "Queen of Yi Wu" Premium Raw Pu-erh tea

2008 Yong Pin Hao "Lan Xiang" Wild Arbor tea of Banna

Hai Lang Hao * Lao Ban Zhang & Man'E Ancient Arbor cake

2008 Xiaguan FT "Mushroom Tuo" Raw Pu-erh tea tuo 250g

2008 Menghai "Autumn Aroma" Raw Pu-erh tea cake * 500g

2008 Haiwan Tea Factory * 9948 Blended Ripe Pu-erh tea

2008 Yong Pin Hao * Stone-Pressed Manzhuan Wild Arbor

2008 Menghai "0622" Premium Raw Pu-erh tea cake * 400g

2007 Mengku * Mu Ye Chun * 001 * Raw Tea Cake of Yongde

2007 * Guoyan * Yi Wu Zheng Shan Wild Arbor * 380 grams

2008 Xiaguan FT "Nan Zhao Tuo Cha" Pu-erh Tea * 100g

Ripe Pu-erh

2008 Menghai "Da Yi Hong" Premium Ripe tea cake * 357g

2007 Yong De * Certified Organic Ripe Pu-erh tea * 357g

2007 Haiwan * Lao Cha Tou * Fermented Ripe Tea Nuggets

2008 Menghai "Yue Chen Yue Xiang" Ripe Pu-erh tea 357g

2008 Hao Ming "Jia Cang" Ripe Pu-erh tea of Menghai

2008 Menghai Tea Factory * 7572 803 * Ripe Pu-erh Tea




Aged Raw Pu-erh

1998 Lincang "CNNP Green Wrapper" Raw Pu-erh tea * 250g

2000 * Long Yuan Hao * Yi Wu Mountain Raw Pu-erh tea

1999 Gu Pu-er * Simao Raw Pu-erh "Fang Cha" brick tea

2002 Bu Lang Mountain Raw Pu-erh tea brick * 250 grams

Aged Ripe Pu-erh

2004 Langhe "High Mountain Pu-erh" Ripe Tea cake * 357g

2003 CNNP * Yellow Mark * Ripe Pu-erh tea cake * 357g

2000 Langhe Tea Factory * Aged Ripe tea of Menghai 357g

2001 White Dragon of Jinggu Ripe Pu-erh tea * 250 grams
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Re: YS list.

Postby hop_goblin » Oct 27th, '08, 21:18

Jeremy wrote:Hey just to share it with you. Scott from YS had sent me this list a few weeks ago when I asked him what he thought some of the best selections were. I have not tried any, but its food for thought.

Raw Pu-erh

2008 Menghai "Da Yi Hong" Premium Raw tea cake * 357g

2008 Guoyan "Queen of Yi Wu" Premium Raw Pu-erh tea

2008 Yong Pin Hao "Lan Xiang" Wild Arbor tea of Banna

Hai Lang Hao * Lao Ban Zhang & Man'E Ancient Arbor cake

2008 Xiaguan FT "Mushroom Tuo" Raw Pu-erh tea tuo 250g

2008 Menghai "Autumn Aroma" Raw Pu-erh tea cake * 500g

2008 Haiwan Tea Factory * 9948 Blended Ripe Pu-erh tea

2008 Yong Pin Hao * Stone-Pressed Manzhuan Wild Arbor

2008 Menghai "0622" Premium Raw Pu-erh tea cake * 400g

2007 Mengku * Mu Ye Chun * 001 * Raw Tea Cake of Yongde

2007 * Guoyan * Yi Wu Zheng Shan Wild Arbor * 380 grams

2008 Xiaguan FT "Nan Zhao Tuo Cha" Pu-erh Tea * 100g

Ripe Pu-erh

2008 Menghai "Da Yi Hong" Premium Ripe tea cake * 357g

2007 Yong De * Certified Organic Ripe Pu-erh tea * 357g

2007 Haiwan * Lao Cha Tou * Fermented Ripe Tea Nuggets

2008 Menghai "Yue Chen Yue Xiang" Ripe Pu-erh tea 357g

2008 Hao Ming "Jia Cang" Ripe Pu-erh tea of Menghai

2008 Menghai Tea Factory * 7572 803 * Ripe Pu-erh Tea




Aged Raw Pu-erh

1998 Lincang "CNNP Green Wrapper" Raw Pu-erh tea * 250g

2000 * Long Yuan Hao * Yi Wu Mountain Raw Pu-erh tea

1999 Gu Pu-er * Simao Raw Pu-erh "Fang Cha" brick tea

2002 Bu Lang Mountain Raw Pu-erh tea brick * 250 grams

Aged Ripe Pu-erh

2004 Langhe "High Mountain Pu-erh" Ripe Tea cake * 357g

2003 CNNP * Yellow Mark * Ripe Pu-erh tea cake * 357g

2000 Langhe Tea Factory * Aged Ripe tea of Menghai 357g

2001 White Dragon of Jinggu Ripe Pu-erh tea * 250 grams



Jerermy, that is is stock.. Don't ask a vendor what is good cause they will say it is all good!
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Postby Jeremy » Oct 28th, '08, 10:20

Well I agree its probably what he is trying to move, but he carries alot more that what is in that list. I also did some research on some of the items, and they look pretty solid.

But i do agree that is a loaded question.
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Postby Salsero » Oct 28th, '08, 10:39

Realistically, he is not going to suggest his worst stuff ... he wants happy customers. But also, his tastes -- like everyone's -- are going to be different from yours. While it's good to get Scott's opinion, it is better to get several opinions if you can.
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Postby beecrofter » Oct 28th, '08, 11:09

I have dealt with Scott for 3 or so years and find him to be quick to fix mistakes and make good on lost orders. I have a wide range of selections from him from dirt cheap to pretty spendy and have not run into anything horrid.
What more can we ask for besides airfare to Kunming:)?
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Postby hop_goblin » Oct 28th, '08, 11:14

Salsero wrote:Realistically, he is not going to suggest his worst stuff ... he wants happy customers. But also, his tastes -- like everyone's -- are going to be different from yours. While it's good to get Scott's opinion, it is better to get several opinions if you can.


Point well taken Sal, but I have had bad vendors trying to push their stuff on me not thinking I knew what I was talking about. :lol:
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Postby puerhking » Oct 28th, '08, 11:22

Thanks for your feedback hop. Is there anything you would recommend more in that price range?

Dizz...very cool thanks for saying.

Vince...that would be great!

Jeremy I have been looking at a few of those already. I can vouch for the guoyan yi wu zheng shan......it is fantastic. I have heard good things about the queen of yi wu also. I have had good luck with guoyan products. Thanks for posting the list.

Thanks for the comments everyone!
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Postby hop_goblin » Oct 28th, '08, 13:54

puerhking wrote:Thanks for your feedback hop. Is there anything you would recommend more in that price range?

Dizz...very cool thanks for saying.

Vince...that would be great!

Jeremy I have been looking at a few of those already. I can vouch for the guoyan yi wu zheng shan......it is fantastic. I have heard good things about the queen of yi wu also. I have had good luck with guoyan products. Thanks for posting the list.

Thanks for the comments everyone!


I will have said it once and I will say it again, if you are trying to start your own collection, I would start with big factory stuff. I know this sounds counter intuative, but it true. MengHai Dayi, Mengyang Guoyan, and Changtai are 3 of my fave.
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Postby heavydoom » Oct 28th, '08, 13:55

a vendor also may try to unload stock that has not been selling well to clear up some space in the warehouse, just a theory.....
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Postby wyardley » Oct 28th, '08, 21:05

I can see both sides of this, but I think that Scott is probably sincere if he offers up a recommendation... plenty of people order who *don't* bother asking Scott what they should order, and of course you'd hope that he thinks most of the teas he sells are pretty good, or he probably wouldn't have bought them in the first place. He needs repeat business, and he doesn't want a bunch of tea forum members and people with web logs to post about how horrible his recommendations are.

That said, taste is very personal, so the fact that Scott likes it doesn't mean that you will like it. On the other hand, he may have a better idea than you of which teas will age well. I have certainly bought things blind on Scott's recommendation, but I don't consider it anything other than a gamble... I'm gambling that some of those cakes will taste good in a long while and / or that they will at least appreciate in value.
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