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JBaymore wrote:

andrzej bero wrote:so nice kodai,
question: are there any principles you choose one or another style of kodai? thanks

andrzej,

Thank you for the kind comment.

Since I make a lot of Chawan actually intended for Chanoyu taemae, I tend to follow "the rules" a lot.... certainly more than an awful lot of western potters I have encountered. Many western potters make Chawan..... but not a lot have spent time in Japan looking and handling the "real things", working a bit with actual practitioners of Chado, or have undertaken studying the art itself very much.

At a recent group Chawan exhibition, I invited a tea master to visit and look at the works. She found few of the western bowls suitable for actual use in ceremony. She liked many of them as visual objects.... but would not be able to use them. Many were breaking "rules" or design features that needed to be seriously taken into account.

So the short answer here is that for a lot of the forms I make, depending on the general style (tradition) of the parcticular Chawan,.... I tend to often (but not always) use the kodai style that is considered "approprioate" by most Chajin for that particular type of wan. Certain types of Chawan are expected to have certain general kodai treatments.

All that being said.. ...... being Gaijin (Gaikokujin....foreigner .... literal "outside person")..... I do not have the constraints placed upon me that tend to be there for most Japanese potters making Chawan (and other items too). So I can eaily play with form, surface, and styles to my heart's content. I can put a Shino style kodai on a Setoguro type of bowl form and (sometimes) get aways with it . Or a raku style kodai on a Shino piece. And so on.

Either a Chajin will accept that "playfulness"... or not.

best,

......................john

JBaymore wrote:

Saladin wrote:I did learn of Sheffield Salmon clay from you, and how it seemed to make that Nuka look really pretty. Spodumene?

Saladin,

That is actually Sheffield 16425 clay. And yes... it has spodumene in the formula. The lithium oxide being picked up out of the claybody by the nuka glaze modifies the surface nicely.

But if you put a Shino on it....... it shivers right off the pieces!

best,

..................john

andrzej bero wrote:

JBaymore wrote:

andrzej bero wrote:so nice kodai,
question: are there any principles you choose one or another style of kodai? thanks

andrzej,

Thank you for the kind comment.

Since I make a lot of Chawan actually intended for Chanoyu taemae, I tend to follow "the rules" a lot.... certainly more than an awful lot of western potters I have encountered. Many western potters make Chawan..... but not a lot have spent time in Japan looking and handling the "real things", working a bit with actual practitioners of Chado, or have undertaken studying the art itself very much.

At a recent group Chawan exhibition, I invited a tea master to visit and look at the works. She found few of the western bowls suitable for actual use in ceremony. She liked many of them as visual objects.... but would not be able to use them. Many were breaking "rules" or design features that needed to be seriously taken into account.

So the short answer here is that for a lot of the forms I make, depending on the general style (tradition) of the parcticular Chawan,.... I tend to often (but not always) use the kodai style that is considered "approprioate" by most Chajin for that particular type of wan. Certain types of Chawan are expected to have certain general kodai treatments.

All that being said.. ...... being Gaijin (Gaikokujin....foreigner .... literal "outside person")..... I do not have the constraints placed upon me that tend to be there for most Japanese potters making Chawan (and other items too). So I can eaily play with form, surface, and styles to my heart's content. I can put a Shino style kodai on a Setoguro type of bowl form and (sometimes) get aways with it . Or a raku style kodai on a Shino piece. And so on.

Either a Chajin will accept that "playfulness"... or not.

best,

......................john

John,
That is a pleasure to read your answers, thanks. Words about potters who make chawans without deep studying I take to myself.
For me now contact with chanoyu practitioners change a lot.
Congratulation your exhibition!
best
andrzej

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