A cardboard box and the slow death of my pu's

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A cardboard box and the slow death of my pu's

by puerhking » Nov 20th, '08, 21:34

I keep a few beengs that I drink regularly in a cardboard box in my kitchen. A disturbing trend is taking place in those teas. One is the Guoyan beeng Youle meets Nannuo. I have really enjoyed that one and last week I noticed a change……a bad change in flavor but even worse a massive dryness in my throat after drinking. I pulled it out……not really thinking anything about it and put it with my others that I keep in a makeshift puidor. Then one of my favorite Yuan Nian teas…the fall cake had some strange off flavors and the dryness. Then my YiWu beeng from Awazon had some really developed flavors……carmel, tobacco..etc. that seemed to be happening too quickly for its age……and the dryness. Since I have two of those I brewed the other tonight and guess what……I tastes totally different. Brutal. I can only hope they can be saved by the puidor.

So for any of you who keep theirs in a cardboard box…..you might want to separate some as a control so you can keep a catastrophe from occurring.

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by brandon » Nov 20th, '08, 21:44

I have my beengs stacked by type in an old wooden cabinet - there is a cardboard box in there to round up smaller bricks and tuos - mostly cooked. I guess I am not too worried about those.

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by taitea » Nov 20th, '08, 22:02

So you don't know what it was that caused the initial problem? You only that it is creating some sort of epidemic?

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by PolyhymnianMuse » Nov 20th, '08, 22:54

Thats interesting. I've been keeping my couple cakes in an old usps shipping box that is the perfect size for 357g cakes.

What makes you think its because of the storage in the cardboard box?

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by tony shlongini » Nov 20th, '08, 23:28

I would think that, in general, a kitchen isn't a good place for storing pu'er- strong odors and wild swings of temperature and humidity.

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by hop_goblin » Nov 20th, '08, 23:41

tony shlongini wrote:I would think that, in general, a kitchen isn't a good place for storing pu'er- strong odors and wild swings of temperature and humidity.


I diddo that.

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by Salsero » Nov 20th, '08, 23:46

Has the heating kicked in during this period of time? That might drop the humidity dramatically.

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by thanks » Nov 21st, '08, 00:28

I also agree about the kitchen being a bad storage location. Is this an always open cardboard box? Could be too much airflow, and I've run into a similar situation myself when it comes to that. Especially in the winter. Too much airflow + very low humidity does not a good pu make.

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by Wesli » Nov 21st, '08, 00:58

OUTTA THE KITCHEN MAN!!!

:P

I've got all my shu, and a bunch fo other teas in cardboard and they're all good. Have been for like a year.

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by odarwin » Nov 21st, '08, 05:27

wesli, what is the RH level in your place?

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by puerhking » Nov 21st, '08, 11:36

You guys make a good point about the kitchen. However I have kept some in this location for two and a half years with no problem. Its very strange. The box is in a cubby hole so I doubt airflow is the problem. On the other hand its the same cardboard box for all this time. I am stumped. None the less they have all been removed from that location. The box is the only thing that seemed to make sense though it may very well not be the cause.

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by Wesli » Nov 21st, '08, 12:26

odarwin wrote:wesli, what is the RH level in your place?

Around 57-70 these days.

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by PolyhymnianMuse » Nov 21st, '08, 15:30

puerhking wrote:You guys make a good point about the kitchen. However I have kept some in this location for two and a half years with no problem. Its very strange. The box is in a cubby hole so I doubt airflow is the problem. On the other hand its the same cardboard box for all this time. I am stumped. None the less they have all been removed from that location. The box is the only thing that seemed to make sense though it may very well not be the cause.


To what extent do you imagine the box actually effected it? Do you think it has something to do with the box itself or just the fact that they were in the box and its more the "atmosphere" inside the box?

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by orguz » Nov 22nd, '08, 08:04

Could be the material that your cardboard box is made of, perhaps made with recycled paper or not acid free, was it used to ship fruit which had residual chemicals left over trapped in the box.

The cardboard box imparts smells too when it absorbs moisture, maybe these odours are re-absorbed by your cakes. I went to Ikea bought one of their rattan/wicker made baskets and store my cakes in there. I have a humidifier going in the room where they are stored, that only goes up to 60% rh though.

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