What, you have a 3D monitor!?!Zensuji wrote:Those were the 2 that sprang out to me.
Lots of choices EoT too, and as you may know, 3 of theirs was used in the last OTTI. My favorite was the Mansai.
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Lots of choices EoT too, and as you may know, 3 of theirs was used in the last OTTI. My favorite was the Mansai.
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You know those prank cans, when you open one a fake snake comes springing out at you? They should fill those with loose leaf tea..........TwoPynts wrote:What, you have a 3D monitor!?!Zensuji wrote:Those were the 2 that sprang out to me.
Lots of choices EoT too, and as you may know, 3 of theirs was used in the last OTTI. My favorite was the Mansai.
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I've got some great pus that I'd love to recommend to you--my favorites that I'd suggest for beginners, are the golden needle white lotus from menghai (I have posted about it several times on this site, it has wonderful warm caramel notes besides mild earthiness); a private pressing from Norbu that is sold out (the 2007 white bud sheng); and a Lao Cha Tou brick that is quite delicious and fruity/plummy (link is to his site, with a review posted there (and also available here if you search for it).
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I have just started experimenting with Pu myself, so far I have learned that ripe seems to be more to my liking.
Debunix - your review on the Lau Cha Tou brick convinced my to make another sample order. Picked a couple others and looking forward to trying them!
Debunix - your review on the Lau Cha Tou brick convinced my to make another sample order. Picked a couple others and looking forward to trying them!
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My current fav for ripe aged puerh...TwoPynts wrote:May I inquire which one you found?auhckw wrote:...I recently managed to find an Age Pu that I really like. It doesn't have the fishiness / fermented taste at all. Doesn't have the wet wood taste. Sort of aged herb kind of taste. Liking it a lot..
It sounds interesting.
Early 90s Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh
Review:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 05#p170504
Place I bought it:
http://www.tea-li.com/goods.php?id=147
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debunix wrote:I've got some great pus that I'd love to recommend to you--my favorites that I'd suggest for beginners, are the golden needle white lotus from menghai (I have posted about it several times on this site, it has wonderful warm caramel notes besides mild earthiness); a private pressing from Norbu that is sold out (the 2007 white bud sheng); and a Lao Cha Tou brick that is quite delicious and fruity/plummy (link is to his site, with a review posted there (and also available here if you search for it).
This one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-Menghai-Gold ... 274wt_1137
Thanks for all the info guys. I'm going to reference this thread so all your answers are much appreciated
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You can also try this recent release ripe from Dayi.
2010 Gong Ting Ripe Puerh
Gong Ting in general is meant for the king. So it is supposed to be of higher or better grade.
Info: http://www.tea-li.com/goods.php?id=252
2010 Gong Ting Ripe Puerh
Gong Ting in general is meant for the king. So it is supposed to be of higher or better grade.
Info: http://www.tea-li.com/goods.php?id=252
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This is the one I got a sample from. Cake rather than brick.Zensuji wrote:This one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Menghai-Dayi-G ... 2ea9f1b3a2
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I would highly recommend a slightly aged sheng, the 1993 7542 from esssence of tea. http://www.essenceoftea.co.uk/tea/aged- ... -7542.html
You can get as sample size for about a buck a gram and it's an easy company to do business with. 7542 is considered a classic blend, so it's a good place to start.
I would not start with Shu. That's not to say Shu is not good -- I love it. It's just that an aged or semi-aged Sheng is really what pu erh is about, IMO. That's not to say aged sheng is the only thing. I only drink it occasionally and I drink shu every day. But still, it's a good place to start to appreciate pu erh.
Pu erh can take a long time to understnad and appreciate, and after a couple of years I feel like I'm barely scratching the surface. But that's part of the joy of it.
Also, another bit of advice is to try the same tea more than once, perhaps after a bit of time. I've had teas that I disliked only to love the tea the next time I have it. I never know if it's me or the tea that has changed -- most likely me.
Anyway, I'm babbling now. Give a sample of tha 1993 7542 a try. It won't break the bank.
You can get as sample size for about a buck a gram and it's an easy company to do business with. 7542 is considered a classic blend, so it's a good place to start.
I would not start with Shu. That's not to say Shu is not good -- I love it. It's just that an aged or semi-aged Sheng is really what pu erh is about, IMO. That's not to say aged sheng is the only thing. I only drink it occasionally and I drink shu every day. But still, it's a good place to start to appreciate pu erh.
Pu erh can take a long time to understnad and appreciate, and after a couple of years I feel like I'm barely scratching the surface. But that's part of the joy of it.
Also, another bit of advice is to try the same tea more than once, perhaps after a bit of time. I've had teas that I disliked only to love the tea the next time I have it. I never know if it's me or the tea that has changed -- most likely me.
Anyway, I'm babbling now. Give a sample of tha 1993 7542 a try. It won't break the bank.
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Thanks zeusmta
I will definitely get some of that.
I ordered this first of all
http://jingtea.com/tea/finest-and-rares ... -shu-puerh
If I dont like it I will continue to find a way in. Oolong is my favourite tea and its 90% of what I drink but for years I didnt like it. Because I didnt brew it properly and I didn't give it a chance on the palate.
I'm going to build a small set of samples and keep plugging away at them. If its a no go its a no go but I want to properly give it a go before giving up.
Thanks to all.. every thing in this thread will be looked in to.
I will definitely get some of that.
I ordered this first of all
http://jingtea.com/tea/finest-and-rares ... -shu-puerh
If I dont like it I will continue to find a way in. Oolong is my favourite tea and its 90% of what I drink but for years I didnt like it. Because I didnt brew it properly and I didn't give it a chance on the palate.
I'm going to build a small set of samples and keep plugging away at them. If its a no go its a no go but I want to properly give it a go before giving up.
Thanks to all.. every thing in this thread will be looked in to.
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Right well the 1990 ripe tasted like drinking a piece of highly polished antique furniture with a thick layer of dust on the top and a slightly mediciney flavour. Got a good buzz of it but my throat felt horrible after...dry and fluffy. And the taste wasnt my thing at all. pretty grime really.
Did get a 2007 raw sample which was much nicer and I can see decent sheng being more my thing so that's my next route.
Did get a 2007 raw sample which was much nicer and I can see decent sheng being more my thing so that's my next route.
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yes, shu is much more likely to have off flavours than sheng...also if you´re buying aged tea you might want to shy away from anything labeled as wet stored...even if it´s done carefully it develops off flavours imo. Some people like it but it tastes too fungal for me...I won´t eat anything but the mildest cheeses either though. 
My advice if you want clean tasting puerh...stick to vendors that are reputable for their puerh...even otherwise good western vendors often stock really bad puerh because they don´t know what it should be like. I´m thinking this could be the case to some degree with Jing UK. It´s better buying from sites like Essence of Tea (UK), Yunnan Sourcing (China) and Hou De (USA) which have a good level of knowledge of how to correctly source puerh.
When you´re buying shu puerh look for well known factory names like Menghai Dayi, Xiaguan, Haiwan ect... Also even good quality shu puerh can have strange flavours when it´s young...buy it a few years old if you want to drink it now so it has had time to air out. Ask the vendors if the tea you´re interested in has "Dui Wei" still or not...you´ll want to avoid the ones that do...that´s the term for those funky fermentation flavours and aromas you´ll want to avoid when you´re buying teas to drink right away.
With sheng when young the issues are more along the lines of being very bitter and having a lot of smoky aroma...this can be good or bad depending on your taste preferences. If those flavours put you off again...ask the vendor if the teas you´re interested in have strong bitterness or smokiness...often the descriptions on the sites will tell you.
With aged sheng the thing to watch out for is if they were stored in high humidity they can develop very fungal flavours...even if they were stored carefully with good controls...which I don´t like...others do. If that bothers you look specifically for dry stored tea. Avoid tea that was aged in humid places like Hong Kong. You can ask the vendor for those kinds of details...they should know.
Dry storage will also help to develop cleaner tasting aged shu too.
Hopefully that helps you in finding puerh without any unpleasant flavours...they certainly exist
Not that everything I listed is bad...some people really like puerh aged in humid climates and I personally really enjoy bitter, smoky sheng....but I think those kinds of puerh are better left to explore when you´re feeling a bit more confident and already have some puerh you like.
My advice if you want clean tasting puerh...stick to vendors that are reputable for their puerh...even otherwise good western vendors often stock really bad puerh because they don´t know what it should be like. I´m thinking this could be the case to some degree with Jing UK. It´s better buying from sites like Essence of Tea (UK), Yunnan Sourcing (China) and Hou De (USA) which have a good level of knowledge of how to correctly source puerh.
When you´re buying shu puerh look for well known factory names like Menghai Dayi, Xiaguan, Haiwan ect... Also even good quality shu puerh can have strange flavours when it´s young...buy it a few years old if you want to drink it now so it has had time to air out. Ask the vendors if the tea you´re interested in has "Dui Wei" still or not...you´ll want to avoid the ones that do...that´s the term for those funky fermentation flavours and aromas you´ll want to avoid when you´re buying teas to drink right away.
With sheng when young the issues are more along the lines of being very bitter and having a lot of smoky aroma...this can be good or bad depending on your taste preferences. If those flavours put you off again...ask the vendor if the teas you´re interested in have strong bitterness or smokiness...often the descriptions on the sites will tell you.
With aged sheng the thing to watch out for is if they were stored in high humidity they can develop very fungal flavours...even if they were stored carefully with good controls...which I don´t like...others do. If that bothers you look specifically for dry stored tea. Avoid tea that was aged in humid places like Hong Kong. You can ask the vendor for those kinds of details...they should know.
Dry storage will also help to develop cleaner tasting aged shu too.
Hopefully that helps you in finding puerh without any unpleasant flavours...they certainly exist
Not that everything I listed is bad...some people really like puerh aged in humid climates and I personally really enjoy bitter, smoky sheng....but I think those kinds of puerh are better left to explore when you´re feeling a bit more confident and already have some puerh you like.