Saturday TeaDay 10/18/08 Inaugural TCR vote Alishan?

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This will normally take place under TeaCritic, but to kick it off, let's see if we can pick our first tea. I nominate Oolong, Alishan. Please vote on this selection and discuss if it is a good inaugural TCR.

Yes to Alishan Oolong as our inaugural TCR
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No to Alishan Oolong as our inaugural TCR
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5%
Abstain
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by Riene » Oct 18th, '08, 08:57

Ali Shan works for me. I've been wanting to try it anyway, as I see a large number of references and comments upon it.

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by Maitre_Tea » Oct 18th, '08, 09:17

Yes, Ali Shan Oolong is a great first tea, as it was my introduction to the tea world.
Will brew some Ali Shan in honor of this...

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by Shelob » Oct 18th, '08, 09:29

YES to Ali Shan for the inaugural TC/TCR especially because it is a new intro for Adagio! Thanks Chip! 8)

You are a most humble and honorable King of Green

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by TIM » Oct 18th, '08, 09:51

Good start! And a very interesting start... almost like finding the best steak from Colorado Montana :wink:
Btw, are we focusing on a certain harvest, roasting level and year? Can't wait to call my vendors for free samples!!

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by Chip » Oct 18th, '08, 11:16

TIM wrote:Good start! And a very interesting start... almost like finding the best steak from Colorado Montana :wink:
Btw, are we focusing on a certain harvest, roasting level and year? Can't wait to call my vendors for free samples!!
Certain criteria will be established, but how specific that is ... :?:

Price will be one criteria. A look around will tell you Alishan pricing is pretty variable.

This inaugural run will also be a bit of a trial run for all of us. So, we will simply go one step at a time so we all get the hang of it. Today, we are simply establishing the type and origin. Oolong/Alishan?

As we go through the process over the next several days, please ask any questions you may have. In future TC/TCRs, the process will likely occur under the TeaCritic forum.

The next step (tomorrow) will be to nominate vendor/specific selections based upon the established criteria. So you can start thinking about it, an example, Adagio Alishan is around $.20 per gram or $5.80 per ounce based on the 5 ounce size tin. The price range for this testing will be in that neighborhood. When looking at pricing comparisons, you will need to base it upon a 100 gram or around 4 ounce size bag.

Any nominations falling too far outside the criteria will not be eligible for the vote to see which will become a part of the actual TCR, the 5 finalists. In order to enable multible votes, an email account for TC/TCR has been established. It is TeaChatTCR@gmail.com You will submit your votes for final tally to this email once the voting has been opened.

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by jazz88 » Oct 18th, '08, 11:18

Voted "Yes"!
Didn't post here for a couple of days – really busy with work.
Anyway couldn't resist :) http://www.jackcheng.com/presidential-teas

Will drink Rose Melange in a sec.

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by gingkoseto » Oct 18th, '08, 11:40

I abstain. Because on the one hand, Ali Shan oolong is a great tea. On the other hand, I somewhat think it's too great to be the start. When I try out different teas, very often I want to start from lower end product, and then raise the level little by little to find out difference between levels. In this sense, I thought a summer harvest Tie Guan Yin or Ben Shan (not that they are not great...) would be a more modest start.

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by Victoria » Oct 18th, '08, 11:52

Trey Winston wrote:Alishan sounds just fine. I was going to expand my oolong horizons anyway, mainly because of the enthusiasm of the oolongonians on TeaChat.
Awwww!! Really?? That is cool!

Started my day with a Nilgiri from ToT called Neela.
It is really nice, very smooth.

Have a nice day everyone!

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by auggy » Oct 18th, '08, 11:53

Sounds good to me. I've only tried one before and would like to experiment more with it.
Victoria wrote:...pretty rough day which included 13 hours of work with no real lunch or break and a project so complicated it was mind-numbing. Then as I was washing out my Hagi cup, I dropped it on the floor and it broke clean in half.
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by kongni » Oct 18th, '08, 11:57

I've never had that kind of oolong.
Can anyone shed some light on what kind of oolong it is?

Drinking Numi Bai Hao oolong right now!

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by murrius » Oct 18th, '08, 11:57

Fine with Ali Shan; magnificent, complex tea.

I see a few steeps of Long Jing in my future this morning.

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by Victoria » Oct 18th, '08, 12:13

kongni wrote:I've never had that kind of oolong.
Can anyone shed some light on what kind of oolong it is?

Drinking Numi Bai Hao oolong right now!
Shan means mountain - Ali is a mountain in Tawain.
It is basically a high mountain oolong from this area.
Some ... many of the better quality oolongs are from this mountain.

AliShan is typically a greener, high mountain oolong.
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by Victoria » Oct 18th, '08, 12:26

gingko wrote:I abstain. Because on the one hand, Ali Shan oolong is a great tea. On the other hand, I somewhat think it's too great to be the start. When I try out different teas, very often I want to start from lower end product, and then raise the level little by little to find out difference between levels. In this sense, I thought a summer harvest Tie Guan Yin or Ben Shan (not that they are not great...) would be a more modest start.
Since we are not comparing AliShan to other teas, I don't see your point. Also I don't think it will be about comparing lower end produts to higher end products. It seems to be more of a vendor comparison of AliShan teas within a certain price range. And since there will be all the different tea types to get to; Oolongs, Greens, Whites, Blacks, I would tend to think some of the more popular teas will be the ones voted to try.

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by Chip » Oct 18th, '08, 12:33

BTW, Kabusecha from the expo to start the TeaDay.

And ... Alishan from Adagio is in 3rd steep.
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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by Maitre_Tea » Oct 18th, '08, 12:51

kongni wrote:I've never had that kind of oolong.
Can anyone shed some light on what kind of oolong it is?
Just to add on to what Victoria said, it's grown as really really high mountains in Taiwan, so at such high elevations the tea leaves grow slower so they accumulate lots of flavors. The dry leaves have an especially strong veggie smell because of the amino proteins that are bundled up inside.

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