Yeah, tough question. I am not a smokey fan at all, so I can eliminate that right away. My core flavors are grassy and vegetal of greens, but, but, a good oolong offers such a pleasant floral, or fruity aspect that really is sooo nice. I will have to think a bit.
Had a nice session of Kabuse from the Expo with Sweetie to start the TeaDay. Not sure what is next.
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Generally speaking, here are some "guidelines," at least from my own experience. Some teas will defy these categorizations. Take it with a grain of salt:Drax wrote:Given that I think that I have only had experience with 'grassy,' so far, that's what I picked.
I'm sure I've had some teas with those other attributes, but I never consciously called them that, so at this point, I don't know whether they're really a draw for me a not.
Does anybody have recommendations (like the mention of the Long Jing being nutty and vegative) for teas with these attributes? I think it'd be a good way to calibrate my brain with my tongue ("oh, that's what they mean by vegative") -- I mean, I know what it means in the technical sense, but I'd like to have proof in the practical sense.
Dragonwell with my oatmeal and raisins.
1. High Mountain Oolongs are vegative (at least the dry leaves are). It's because of the amino proteins that accumulate in the leaves
2. High roasted oolongs can often be fruity. They can also have some chocolate flavors in there.
3. Lightly roasted oolongs, like TKY, can be floral
4. Green teas can be grassy, but also nutty...Bilouchun and Huangshan Maofeng are also nutty green teas
5. Some roasted teas can be smoky, as can some black teas. Of course, Lapsang Souchang is smoked, so it's pretty smoky.
I personally like fruitiness in a tea, but I wish I could choose smoky as well. Enjoying a nice Dan Cong in my cup, with an aroma that reminds me of melon...
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I'll do my list too. These are the teas I think exhibit each of the flavors. I'm adding some I think chip missed.
Floral:
Sheng
TKY
Fruity:
High Mountain light roasted+
TKY traditional dark roast
Bohea
Grassy:
Kukicha
Smoky:
Lapsang Soucohng
Toasty:
Houjicha
Low heat roasted Oolongs
Vegetal:
Gyokuro
Light Roast High Mountain Oolong
Marine:
Gyokuro
Harbor Tea
Sencha is hard to classify. Its like putting every fried green tea together.
Floral:
Sheng
TKY
Fruity:
High Mountain light roasted+
TKY traditional dark roast
Bohea
Grassy:
Kukicha
Smoky:
Lapsang Soucohng
Toasty:
Houjicha
Low heat roasted Oolongs
Vegetal:
Gyokuro
Light Roast High Mountain Oolong
Marine:
Gyokuro
Harbor Tea
Sencha is hard to classify. Its like putting every fried green tea together.
My answer is "fruity"... well, at least for today. I can't promise what my answer will be tomorrow or next week.
Fruity and floral were close in ranking for me, as I enjoy both very much. Vegetal was only a millimeter behind those two, because I love the vegetal character of my greenish oolongs and darjeelings. Grassy and smoky are not unpleasant to me, but not sought-after or craved.
The perfect balance of fruity, floral,and vegetal is the perfect tea for me... and greenish FF Darjeelings are fitting the bill on a daily basis.
In my cup now...nothing, I drank it all. I've had some hot FF Darjeeling and also some iced already... eating a bit of halloween candy now, and thinking I need something green. There's still some maeda-en 2008 shincha in there somewhere... hmmm...
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Fruity and floral were close in ranking for me, as I enjoy both very much. Vegetal was only a millimeter behind those two, because I love the vegetal character of my greenish oolongs and darjeelings. Grassy and smoky are not unpleasant to me, but not sought-after or craved.
The perfect balance of fruity, floral,and vegetal is the perfect tea for me... and greenish FF Darjeelings are fitting the bill on a daily basis.
In my cup now...nothing, I drank it all. I've had some hot FF Darjeeling and also some iced already... eating a bit of halloween candy now, and thinking I need something green. There's still some maeda-en 2008 shincha in there somewhere... hmmm...
Sarah
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You can get smoky and marine together with some young Talisker.Selaphiel wrote:I miss the "marine" option, so I selected grassy. Combination of grassy, vegetal and marine would best describe my preference. I enjoy them all, all tastes should be explored. Smokey I leave to scotch
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Wow, that is pretty much exactly how I would outline it. Except I like the floral green oolongs. Which then one would assume I like the typical "Floral" oolongs but that is not true. It is a floralness from a greener oolong I enjoy - not floral oolongs - it gets complicated.Maitre_Tea wrote: Generally speaking, here are some "guidelines," at least from my own experience. Some teas will defy these categorizations. Take it with a grain of salt:
1. High Mountain Oolongs are vegative (at least the dry leaves are). It's because of the amino proteins that accumulate in the leaves
2. High roasted oolongs can often be fruity. They can also have some chocolate flavors in there.
3. Lightly roasted oolongs, like TKY, can be floral
4. Green teas can be grassy, but also nutty...Bilouchun and Huangshan Maofeng are also nutty green teas
5. Some roasted teas can be smoky, as can some black teas. Of course, Lapsang Souchang is smoked, so it's pretty smoky.
I personally like fruitiness in a tea, but I wish I could choose smoky as well. Enjoying a nice Dan Cong in my cup, with an aroma that reminds me of melon...
I like my oolongs to also be vegetal, but vegetal in oolong, is a whole different thing than a vegetal green.
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This sounds like the basic recipe for all Japanese green teas, just vary the proportions and you could make all the different Japanese greens that ever existed! Maybe for gyokuro you would have to add umami and some mouthfeel descriptors.Selaphiel wrote: Combination of grassy, vegetal and marine would best describe my preference.
I am enjoying everyone's efforts to match characteristics with specific teas. I like to think of each tea type as representing a sliding scale:
- Sencha: ------ (grassy vs vegetal) +/- marine
Gao Shan: --- vegetal vs floral
Yan Cha: ----- fruity vs smokey
Guess I forgot to mention today's morning tea:
-Stash Millenium Blend Black-
This blend has something for everyone! Black, Darjeeling, green, oolong and white.
Not a bad morning tea, but I prefer a nice Darjeeling or Yunnan Gold.
-Stash Millenium Blend Black-
This blend has something for everyone! Black, Darjeeling, green, oolong and white.
Not a bad morning tea, but I prefer a nice Darjeeling or Yunnan Gold.
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