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by geeber1 » Dec 2nd, '08, 11:12

Vulture, love the colors on those!

I just got a couple of clear gaiwan(s?) but haven't tried them yet. They were really cheap on eBay and look VERY fragile!

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by Vulture » Dec 3rd, '08, 02:00

geeber1 wrote:Vulture, love the colors on those!

I just got a couple of clear gaiwan(s?) but haven't tried them yet. They were really cheap on eBay and look VERY fragile!
Yah I was glad they had another size with the same pattern. And clear meaning glass gaiwans?

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by devites » Dec 4th, '08, 20:06

I would suggest 3.4 oz for a puerh gaiwan, but I prefer using a larger (6 oz) for greens, whites, and oolongs. Blacks I always drink tons of so I use a 24 oz teapot.

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by geeber1 » Dec 4th, '08, 21:05

Vulture wrote:
geeber1 wrote:Vulture, love the colors on those!

I just got a couple of clear gaiwan(s?) but haven't tried them yet. They were really cheap on eBay and look VERY fragile!
Yah I was glad they had another size with the same pattern. And clear meaning glass gaiwans?
Yes, they are glass and hold about 6 oz. I finally used one last night for some green tea. It surprised me how good it was! (I'm usually a "dark side" kinda girl) Although I need a lot of practice on pouring.

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by Vulture » Dec 5th, '08, 02:29

I got my larger gaiwan in here at work. It is nice but I find the (I use another forumites words) 'ninja turtle' hold on my 4oz to be hard on the 6oz. I will have to practice either that or the 3 finger hold on this larger one.

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by toastedtoads » Dec 5th, '08, 08:34

I've decided the 'ninja turtle' hold is just too much of a hassle to try and accomplish. Having to make sure you don't drop and break 3 pieces instead of just 2 is just unnecessary. I was using a travel set for a while with a little mini gaiwan (90ml) which didn't even come with the saucer, so I attempted the 3 finger method. You need to build up some heat-resistance on your fingers, but in the end it almost seems easier. Now, I don't know about the 6oz one, but my new 4oz ones I got yesterday I just threw the saucers in a drawer since I don't really plan on using them.

Btw Vulture, nice dragons. I kind of want a dragon gaiwan, but maybe more watercolor looking (girlier dragons if you will). Maybe more delicate looking, idk.

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by Vulture » Dec 5th, '08, 09:02

toastedtoads wrote:I've decided the 'ninja turtle' hold is just too much of a hassle to try and accomplish. Having to make sure you don't drop and break 3 pieces instead of just 2 is just unnecessary. I was using a travel set for a while with a little mini gaiwan (90ml) which didn't even come with the saucer, so I attempted the 3 finger method. You need to build up some heat-resistance on your fingers, but in the end it almost seems easier. Now, I don't know about the 6oz one, but my new 4oz ones I got yesterday I just threw the saucers in a drawer since I don't really plan on using them.
I prefer using the saucer method on my 4oz. I need to practice more using the 3 finger method so it pores faster and I don't have hot water sitting on the lip as long.
toastedtoads wrote:Btw Vulture, nice dragons. I kind of want a dragon gaiwan, but maybe more watercolor looking (girlier dragons if you will). Maybe more delicate looking, idk.
This is exactly why I got these gaiwans. It was the manliest ones I could find out of the lot. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the calming rice, tea leaves, and other ones. But I want to keep the friendly jokes about me drinking tea to that and not about the teaware itself. :lol:

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by Janine » Dec 5th, '08, 10:02

I will never understand *not* using the saucer. I do one-handed with saucer (for pouring of course, not sipping), and I think it is utterly easier and that this is what gaiwans were made for. Even big ones. I suppose I have a large hand so that makes a difference.

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by Vulture » Dec 6th, '08, 02:04

Janine wrote:I will never understand *not* using the saucer. I do one-handed with saucer (for pouring of course, not sipping), and I think it is utterly easier and that this is what gaiwans were made for. Even big ones. I suppose I have a large hand so that makes a difference.
It depends if you do a slow pore or a quick pore. I prefer to do it slow to let the liquid brew even as I pore it out. But I believe for harder teas, people might prefer a fast pore which could be done with 3 fingers and no burning lol.

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by Janine » Dec 6th, '08, 07:20

Vulture wrote:It depends if you do a slow pore or a quick pore. I prefer to do it slow to let the liquid brew even as I pore it out. But I believe for harder teas, people might prefer a fast pore which could be done with 3 fingers and no burning lol.
See this is what I don't get. I don't burn myself - the saucer is part of that protection. I think you're much more likely to burn yourself holding the rim of the gaiwan. With the saucer you hold with your four fingers under the saucer and your thumb on the lid. This gives a good solid grasp, unlike holding the rims of the gaiwan, and protects you from hot gaiwan or water.

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by Vulture » Dec 6th, '08, 08:24

Janine wrote:See this is what I don't get. I don't burn myself - the saucer is part of that protection. I think you're much more likely to burn yourself holding the rim of the gaiwan. With the saucer you hold with your four fingers under the saucer and your thumb on the lid. This gives a good solid grasp, unlike holding the rims of the gaiwan, and protects you from hot gaiwan or water.
I understand that and I was using that method more with my 6oz. It works for the 4oz but I spill more when trying to use the saucer on the larger one. I think its better to learn to pore fast with the 3 finger style. Its also practice for when I think of attempting karate-fying my teas. Need to pore fast or it steeps more as you pore.

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by toastedtoads » Dec 6th, '08, 08:33

Yea, pouring fast is what got me out of the whole saucer thing. With my little 90ml gaiwan, there were a few teas that I barely had enough time to finish pouring the water in before I had to dump it out again (a few really high roasted oolongs that just needed a flash infusion). I also can't pick up the gaiwan with the saucer with only one hand, I'd need to use the left to set it into place, and it's usually busy putting the kettle down so I just have to grab the gaiwan with my right hand alone. Working quickly is the name of the game sometimes.

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by Janine » Dec 6th, '08, 08:52

With more practice, you pour perfectly fast. In fact, it's not as delicate an operation, so you pour faster with one hand and saucer. You just have to get used to it, and get used to the hold. And yes, you can pick it up with one hand too. I never steep long if I can help it. I honestly cannot imagine having to pour any faster than I do, and I still feel that with a greater certainty of hold a fast pour is safer and surer with a saucer. I just don't get it because the three finger pour seems more risky and less sure to me.

A manager at Imperial Tea used to amaze me by his deft pours of two gaiwans at once, one in the left and one in the right hand - slipped his fingers under the saucers and voila.
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by chamekke » Dec 6th, '08, 09:24

I don't often pour one-handed (since I'm not the most deft person you'll ever meet), but I'd love to see examples of all these various gaiwan grips.

YouTube video or it didn't happen? :D
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