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by Tead Off » May 13th, '09, 13:09

Many of the tea people I've met use zi ni pots for Puerh, not the red clay pots. Everyone knows that purple is the best color for Puerh. I would never allow a Puerh in my zhuni pot. Puerh and purple start with P. This should be obvious! :P

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by chrl42 » May 13th, '09, 23:35

Tead Off wrote:Many of the tea people I've met use zi ni pots for Puerh, not the red clay pots. Everyone knows that purple is the best color for Puerh. I would never allow a Puerh in my zhuni pot. Puerh and purple start with P. This should be obvious! :P
Mountain people in Yunnan just boil Puerh in a kettle, likewise there is no rule settled down too strictly I think. Since when Puerh became so popular out of Yunnan? After 60's? Chaozhou Gongfu ceremony has history as early as 18C.

It's true lots of people prefer Zini or Di Cao Qing to make Puerh, but also lots of people I've seen use Zhuni for Puerh, early-made Zhuni for aged Shengs. Zhuni even looks better with some stains on. Plus high-fired, crystallized pots doesn't blot to seriously. To have Puerh juice brewed color darker than Yancha it at least needs over 10-yr of storage in a wet condition and how much money do we have to afford it? :)

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by Tead Off » May 14th, '09, 00:44

Oh chrl42,

Uggh, that dark Puerh juice is never going to touch my precious zhuni. Such sacrilege! The very thought makes me ill. Puerh and Purple or a bucket. :twisted: :lol:

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by zicheng » May 14th, '09, 08:41

Let me be more specific. I'm using zhuni/hongni for aged sheng, while I have a duanni for shu. This is what Tea masters blog recommends. But after this thread I'll experiment so I can ascertain my own preference.

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Re: Affinity of Tea with the Teapot

by kyarazen » Aug 11th, '14, 12:50

being bored of the convention as usual i decided to take a re-read into Lim Kean Siew's book which is pretty much considered to be a little "mythological". in his book he talked about tea and pot matching and how the pot reacted colorimetrically.

incidentally after toying around with a bunch of yixing pots, there i did consistently observe some color changes in the pots i use during the brewing process and thought i would just revive this topic with some pictures. (pictures on top/left are prior to brewing, pictures on bottom/right are during brewing). all on same exposure, same lighting setup/intensity, same white balance, same ISO, aperture, shutter speeds, same lens and same camera, no photographic equipment bias nor voodoo here.

50s/earlier type hongni
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60-70s type hong ni
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end 80s niangao type clay
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its all simple thermodynamics :lol: sorry mr lim, its not so much the tea that affects the color change but just the simple following scientific logics

1) the hotter the water and the hotter the pot, the deeper the color.
2) with different kettles, pouring heights, spout types, the temperature of the water that hits the pot can be a variable, like if i use a small kettle (cz style) off the boil, the 80s niangao clay will become even redder than pictured during brewing
3) tea leaves do absorb thermal energy too, some more than the others, especially with much unfurling and rolling required.
4) if i dispense water in a thin stream from a height for sheng pu-erh, the color change in the pot is lesser than when water is dispensed fast and thick streamed into any of the pots.
5) the more regularly used the pot, the faster and deeper the color response.

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Re: Affinity of Tea with the Teapot

by the_economist » Aug 11th, '14, 14:45

I've often noticed these color changes too but this is a nice documentation of the effect!

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Re: Affinity of Tea with the Teapot

by William » Aug 11th, '14, 15:29

I also noticed these colour changes on my pots. Definitely a great post! Thanks for the photos (and explanation)! :wink:

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by bonescwa » Aug 11th, '14, 17:38

What do you think about a purple clay pot turning lighter in color as it heats and darker as it cools? Maybe my imagination

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by kyarazen » Aug 13th, '14, 02:58

bonescwa wrote:What do you think about a purple clay pot turning lighter in color as it heats and darker as it cools? Maybe my imagination
actually if you do some photography the purple clay pot does not become "lighter" per say, but it becomes more "reflective"/smoother/glossier, giving the perception of it becoming "lighter"

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Re: Affinity of Tea with the Teapot

by chrl42 » Aug 14th, '14, 04:33

bonescwa wrote:What do you think about a purple clay pot turning lighter in color as it heats and darker as it cools? Maybe my imagination
In most cases, it's the opposite.

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