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Re: Questions on Zhuni

by xiaobai » Jun 25th, '15, 01:43

Tead Off wrote:
xiaobai wrote: Concerning the general discussion about zhuni, based on my experience, I can confirm, as pointed out by Tead off earlier, that zhuni clay pots are still being produced for and widely used in the Taiwan market even nowadays. Many vendors still claim that the clay comes from the legendary mines which, according to chr42, should have been exhausted long ago.
In my post, I said 'zhuni-like' pots. There are ways that other clays can be made to look like zhuni. There are also other sources for 'modern' zhuni clay, which apparently is not like the 'lao zhuni', or old zhuni that was mined in Qing up to F1. The Chinese are fond of stories and making up things as they go along to help market products. Those researchers who have investigated zhuni sources and claims that many sellers make about their pots being zhuni have discovered lots of myths and fantasy about it. Unless you know something about clay, you can be fooled more times than not.
Oh, sorry. Yes, I meant "zhuni-like", not zhuni.

Please, forgive my limited experience with this material. After all, I happen to live in a country where "zhuni-like" pots are sold in every corner, and I was cheated quite a few times by local vendors and pseudo-masters here, who in fact happened to be selling just low quality hongni...

Besides, I acknowledge that I entirely lack the experience of selling the actual stuff, unlike others :mrgreen:

But it turns out that real zhuni is such an affordable material!

Especially to most readers of this forum who must have very deep pockets to be thinking of investing in such a valuable teaware. Quickly, let's invite some Taiwanese collectors and organize a teaswap! I'd bet they are all looking forward to it! :D

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Re: Questions on Zhuni

by AT333 » Jun 25th, '15, 08:34

xiaobai wrote: Quickly, let's invite some Taiwanese collectors and organize a teaswap! I'd bet they are all looking forward to it! :D

Good idea xiaobai :mrgreen:

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Re: Questions on Zhuni

by bagua7 » Sep 8th, '15, 21:25

As Tead Off wisely pointed out, this whole Pandora's Box and land full of myths that Yixing clay has become, particularly zhuni, has been caused by Yixing potters for not providing real info to the vendors about the nature of the pots they were making and the latter also for monetary/marketing reasons. Didn't chrl42 state once that "Yixing pottery in the early days was quite simple, few clays were used and craftsmanship was top-notch." Too late now, the beast has been unleashed! :lol:

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