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Copper-Tin Teapot

by auhckw » May 13th, '11, 21:38

Hojo is introducing new teapot again. This time Tin...

http://hojotea.com/item_e/tsuiki-doki.htm

Anyone have experience with tin teapot... hmmmm

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by Drax » May 13th, '11, 21:43

Ooh, very pretty. I have no experience with tin, but I am glad that they address the concerns about lead in the description, because that's what I would have been worried about otherwise!! :D

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by beecrofter » May 14th, '11, 09:49

Many tools of the chef trade are coated in "block tin". Retinning is a dying art. If you have doubts about lead you can purchase inexpensive test swabs that will indicate lead if present. My last batch came from an Ace hardware store.

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by MarshalN » May 14th, '11, 11:50

I have a tin teapot, although I never actually use it -- it's just for decorative purposes for me.

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by shinobicha » May 17th, '11, 12:03

I don't have any experience with the teapot, but before Hojo posted this on his site, I asked him a lot about it. They have been on the site for some time, but not in their own page (I think they were featured at the very bottom of another section).

Anyway, what attracts me about the pot, besides the appearance, is that though expensive like the others in Hojo's collection, it is sturdy. I'm afraid of buying a $150 - $300 kyusu for it to only break within the first week of use . . .

The teapot has a filter very much like a direct filter (larger holes) so it might not be ideal for fukamushi, but it apparently has a better effect on the flavor and aftertaste (combined) than any of his other pots.

If I did decide to get one, I'll post a review here!

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by MarshalN » May 18th, '11, 12:47

Tin is not THAT sturdy.

How much is he selling them for? I can never figure out if Hojo posts any prices on his site

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by Drax » May 18th, '11, 14:38

MarshalN wrote:Tin is not THAT sturdy.

How much is he selling them for? I can never figure out if Hojo posts any prices on his site
Maybe the copper coating helps w/ sturdiness...?

Hojo does post prices, but I can never find the link when I'm on the site (or it takes me way too long). Somebody here usually has to post a link to where all the prices area... (hint, hint :D )

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by Bob_McBob » May 18th, '11, 14:54

Drax wrote:Hojo does post prices
Only tea prices, unless the teaware prices are in a different ultra secret location.

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by MarshalN » May 18th, '11, 15:37

Copper makes everything smells like copper. Ever tried smelling a penny? Not pleasant. Copper is also relatively poisonous

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by MarshalN » May 18th, '11, 15:40

And btw, just from a metal standpoint -- the tin is just a lining here, which means most of the pot is copper, which is a pretty cheap metal. I'd rather buy a silver lined copper pot at that rate.

This is what a tin teapot SHOULD look like

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by Drax » May 18th, '11, 16:53

Bob_McBob wrote:
Drax wrote:Hojo does post prices
Only tea prices, unless the teaware prices are in a different ultra secret location.
Ultra secret, yes. I did manage to find it w/ a little help from the Internets.

http://hojotea.com/item_e/available.htm

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by Bob_McBob » May 18th, '11, 17:23

I guess I was thinking of his ultra super secret tetsubin pricing.

At $340 for the cheapest tinned teapot he sells, I hope you are buying it for the looks rather than the effect it supposedly has on tea taste. You can get tinned copper teapots on eBay for $10-20.

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by tortoise » May 18th, '11, 20:28

I think they look very nice. So does Marshal's. I couldn't comment on whether or not they are over-priced, but man, does he lay it on thick with the "improves taste" sales tactic...

I'm experiencing treppe effect. My impulses are no longer stimulated.

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by auhckw » May 18th, '11, 21:14

I have also lost impulse on his lineups...

He hasn't posted this on his front page yet, but at his facebook he has written:-

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 0853664538

We brought in a new series of clay from Sado Island. This island was very famous in Japan ever since the Gold Mine was discovered in year 1601. Over 200 years, it had produced 78 tons of Gold and 2330 tons of Silver.
The red clay was found inside the mining tunnel.
We used to introduce a number of Sado clay tea pot which is red in color. For this new lineup it is black in color and gives a very solid appearance.
The clay was developed by the collaboration work between Shimizu Ken and Hojo.
Together we carried out a lot of research work to identify the source of clay, the suitable baking temperature and technique to optimize the performance of clay.
During baking, the clay was buried in rice husk and baked with reduction fire (no-oxygen baking technique). The iron oxide that originally exists inside the natural red clay is reduced and this resulted in clay with dark color.
This newly formulated clay performs very well in terms of the depth of after taste. It gives even stronger and deeper after taste than Shigaraki clay that used to be the best clay in our previous lineup.

So what does it tell to those that bought Shigaraki before...

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Re: Copper-Tin Teapot

by MarshalN » May 18th, '11, 21:43

auhckw wrote:I have also lost impulse on his lineups...

He hasn't posted this on his front page yet, but at his facebook he has written:-

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 0853664538

We brought in a new series of clay from Sado Island. This island was very famous in Japan ever since the Gold Mine was discovered in year 1601. Over 200 years, it had produced 78 tons of Gold and 2330 tons of Silver.
The red clay was found inside the mining tunnel.
We used to introduce a number of Sado clay tea pot which is red in color. For this new lineup it is black in color and gives a very solid appearance.
The clay was developed by the collaboration work between Shimizu Ken and Hojo.
Together we carried out a lot of research work to identify the source of clay, the suitable baking temperature and technique to optimize the performance of clay.
During baking, the clay was buried in rice husk and baked with reduction fire (no-oxygen baking technique). The iron oxide that originally exists inside the natural red clay is reduced and this resulted in clay with dark color.
This newly formulated clay performs very well in terms of the depth of after taste. It gives even stronger and deeper after taste than Shigaraki clay that used to be the best clay in our previous lineup.

So what does it tell to those that bought Shigaraki before...
It means you just got screwed.

I know a vendor like that in HK. They keep changing their story and there's always something better than EVERYTHING they've been selling up to that point. That story gets old pretty fast.

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