Kunming 8668 Red Mark Iron Beeng y99/y00 (difference)

[auhckw]

Kunming 8668 Red Mark Iron Beeng
昆明紅印鐵餅8668


Y99 (left), Y00 (right)
Y99 slimmer fonts
Y00 fatter fonts


Y99 Big Ticket


Y00 Big Ticket


Y99


Y00


Tea Art No 19.


It is reviewing Y00, but the photo is showing slimmer font (Y99). Look at the big ticket too, it is showing Y99 ticket instead of Y00.

[auhckw]

Larger photo of the writeup

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[auhckw]

I have a feeling that the y99 I bought is actually y00, and the shop owner labelled it wrongly.

Source 1:-

Tea Art Magazine - No 19.



Source 2:-

Book: 五行圖書出版社 -1998－2003年新生普洱年鑑第２１９頁
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!VQDL1UaUR ... &l=f&fid=5



The confused v99 and v00



So what is the confused y00 version in the shop?

[auhckw]

2 questions I cannot figure out...

1) Kunming factory number is 1, but the number of the recipe is 8668. Shouldn't it be 1?

2) Someone said Kunming factor was officially shut down in 1996. Unofficial production has been carried on until until 1998. It was then reopened in 2006. So what is this 1999/2000 kunming production?

[auhckw]

With a little bit more digging, I think the wrongly labelled y00 is actually y02. But I'm not sure also how trusty is the source...

Source:
http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21103035696961

[MarshalN]

There are a billion different versions of this cake made around 2000ish. How is the tea itself?

[gasninja]

your right that is not a 2000. It doesnot match up with the one they used for the review in art of tea issue one and three. thanks for pointing that out I was actually contemplating ordering one from skip for tea that claims 2000 but has the same issue you show. Geuss I won't be ordering that then.

[gasninja]

by MarshalN » Jun 2nd, '11, 10:28

There are a billion different versions of this cake made around 2000ish. How is the tea itself?0

You may be right MarshalN in issue one of The Art of Tea the tea was in the rview of teas from 2000 and recieved poor reviews but in issue three even though it was a review of teas from 90 to 2000 it was one of the top thre or four reviewed cakes. Now that could be different storage but more likely different version /But both had the y style character.

[auhckw]

There are a billion different versions of this cake made around 2000ish. How is the tea itself?

This version caught my attention cause it won some award and has been highlighted in book/magazine.

Taste wise... still a long way more to go cause it is iron beeng. I remember the first time I drank it the colour was still quite light. Second time drank, with soaking it helped. But kind of strong.

[auhckw]

your right that is not a 2000. It doesnot match up with the one they used for the review in art of tea issue one and three. thanks for pointing that out I was actually contemplating ordering one from skip for tea that claims 2000 but has the same issue you show. Geuss I won't be ordering that then.

Frankly, I have been looking at skip4tea too thinking it is cheaper. But lucky I did a comparison with the book/magazine and skip4tea version is definitely not similar

[auhckw]

by MarshalN » Jun 2nd, '11, 10:28

There are a billion different versions of this cake made around 2000ish. How is the tea itself?0

You may be right MarshalN in issue one of The Art of Tea the tea was in the rview of teas from 2000 and recieved poor reviews but in issue three even though it was a review of teas from 90 to 2000 it was one of the top thre or four reviewed cakes. Now that could be different storage but more likely different version /But both had the y style character.

Too bad I couldn't read chinese, but I think one of the book says for 8668 y99/y00 is similar.

Not sure the 2 links below are 8668 or not, but they are iron been and they quite alike too

y99
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... rmd%3Divns

y00
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... edcake.htm

both with 'Y' on the 4th word. I haven study the cover in detail but the weight shows is different.

I just weight mine and is about 380g.

Though as fun as it is to hunt down the truth about which 8668 is right, but it is kind of worrying that the purchase can be wrong cause it is not cheap. The consolation price I get now is at least the one I bought is quite similar to the book and magazine photo.

[gingkoseto]

I think the mark number is because this product is made by CNNP to copy itself and mimic the products of its earlier years.

The wrappers of old puerh are too complicated. Knowing more about them won't reduce the chance of buying wrong products, not at all. As Chinese say, most of those who drowned in the ocean were stronger swimmers to begin with.

[MarshalN]

Well, the way wrappers work is really like this

1) If the wrapper is wrong, the tea is not going to be right
2) if the wrapper is right, the tea can still be wrong

So, just because a tea is wrapped the right way doesn't mean it's the right tea, but you're at least closer. If it's wrapped the wrong way (different paper, font, style, etc etc) then it's probably a fake.

[Drax]

Should I ask how hard it is to take a wrapper from a "good" beeng and put it around a "bad" one...? (very rhetorical, yes)

[TIM]

I think the mark number is because this product is made by CNNP to copy itself and mimic the products of its earlier years.

The wrappers of old puerh are too complicated. Knowing more about them won't reduce the chance of buying wrong products, not at all. As Chinese say, most of those who drowned in the ocean were stronger swimmers to begin with.

nice

how much are these stuff going for? Just Curious...