Apr 1st, '12, 13:51

Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 1st, '12, 13:51

When Yixing wares were made in 1900's for companies Tie Hua Xuan and Jin Ting Shang Biao,was there any advertising literature produced and adverts in newspapers,etc.

Thanks for any help.

Apr 3rd, '12, 15:50

Re: Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 3rd, '12, 15:50

By the way,I can fnd no trace of Jin Ting Shang Biao company on any thread over than billy moodys so it must be spelt incorrectly.

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by the_economist » Apr 3rd, '12, 19:46

In search of tr... wrote:By the way,I can fnd no trace of Jin Ting Shang Biao company on any thread over than billy moodys so it must be spelt incorrectly.
That is a logical fallacy right there: 'I can't find it on the internet therefore the spelling must be wrong'.

Maybe you can persuade someone besides me to help you.

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by chrl42 » Apr 4th, '12, 01:11

They are both famous studios existed during late-Qing~ROC. They mainly made pots for exportation. Many famous masters worked for them. These pots are very rare to get these days..and bunch of fakes exist. I met one guy who bought fake Jin Ding Shang Biao at Beijing Liu Li Chang who thought it was real the other day.. :|

literature involved that studios maybe even harder to get.

Apr 4th, '12, 08:40

Re: Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 4th, '12, 08:40

Thank you for correcting the spelling,Chrl it is appreciated.

I found a few pieces on the net and the factory mark is quite distinctive.

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by bagua7 » Apr 5th, '12, 07:36

chrl42 wrote:They are both famous studios existed during late-Qing~ROC. They mainly made pots for exportation. Many famous masters worked for them...
They were called Yixing Boccaro teapots, if I am correct.

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Shi Dabin (Ming Dynasty)

I wonder how the term Boccaro (Italian resembling) was adopted.

Some visual info:

http://xml.vod.cctv.com/html/media/cult ... 19_4.shtml

Have you attended the exhibition?

Apr 5th, '12, 08:46

Re: Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 5th, '12, 08:46

Chinese pottery and porcelain was first introduced into Europe from Portuguese traders.

Bocarro means 'wide mouth' and refers to the Yixing pots and teapots.

This was the introduction of tea into Europe also,

In the same manner 'Kraak' porcelain of Ming and later obtained its name in Europe from the Portuguese vessels that brought them from China;Carak's.

The war in China 1644 slowed supplies and allowed the European Faience at Delft to flourish in imitation of the Chinese Blue and White porcelain.

It would not be until the early 18th century that true hard paste porcelain would be made at Meissen in Germany and then later in the century spreading through Europe to break the monopoly that the Chinese and Japanese had.

17th c Stoneware Teapots in imitation of Yixing were made in Delft,Holland as well as in Germany and England (London and Staffordshire),

The earliest from around 1675 in Holland by Lambert Cleffius,Ary de Milde and a few others.

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by Ludwig-1954 » Apr 5th, '12, 10:44

Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen

Merriam Webster has a concise definition of Boccaro as well as the
origin of the word.
It is interesting, that the word has survived in folk usage. Northern
Italy and southern, Italian speaking Switzerland refer to a rustic wine drinking vessel, mostly made of faience, as a 'Boccalino' . This is
a small vessel, 1 to 3 decilitres, shaped like a small jug, quite similar
to a 'Faircup' or a 'cremiere' . Red wine is served in this Boccalino and
- despite the beak intended for pouring- is traditionally drunk straight
out of it. The inns serving 'Boccalinos' are called 'Grotto' and were
frequented by peasants and agricultural labourers in the old days.

Another interesting crossover to China is the fact, that the Boccalino
Region also had a very strong silk production industry.

With regard to Ary de Milde, I have recently come across chinese copies of
de Milde stoneware made in Yixing and actually sporting the de Milde Stamp, a running fox.
Copyists copying the copies of products made in their own region. Call that Globalism ....

Best regards
Patrick B. Ludwig

Apr 5th, '12, 11:54

Re: Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 5th, '12, 11:54

The Ary de Milde copy is worth seeing.

A Staffordshire redware pot was listed as Yixing and I was outbid by a Chinese bidder.

I'm not sure what he'll make of it when it arrives,with its long long spout and gobbledegook Chinese seal on the base.

Probably file a SNAD !

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by chrl42 » Apr 6th, '12, 02:01

bagua7 wrote:
chrl42 wrote:They are both famous studios existed during late-Qing~ROC. They mainly made pots for exportation. Many famous masters worked for them...
They were called Yixing Boccaro teapots, if I am correct.

Image

Shi Dabin (Ming Dynasty)

I wonder how the term Boccaro (Italian resembling) was adopted.

Some visual info:

http://xml.vod.cctv.com/html/media/cult ... 19_4.shtml

Have you attended the exhibition?
thanks for the link. I don't think they belong to Boccaro stuffs..correct me if I'm wrong. Tie Hua Xuan or JDSB (actually a stamp not studio) pots were made for Japan, SE asians mostly..more like overseas Chinese of those countries.

Yixing teapot has a long history of exportation..pots differ by period, country or regions.

For Europe, carved or decorated pots were often, they demonstrate artistic value, many doesn't have a letter or chop that's because none-Chinese doesn't read chinese character.

Pots for Beijing has color-painted, glazed ones often, follows Manchurian fashion, pots with caligraphy they call literati pots, Han Chinese scholars or literatis adored those kinds.

Fujian, Taiwan, Guangdong have little Zhuni pots, they were used to perform 'Gongfu' for Oolong, gold or silver-rimmed ones were introduced to SE asian countries in late-Qing....egg-shaped little one called 'Julunzhu' were mostly found in Japan, that too has somethin to do with Japanese type of brewing tea....correct me if I'm wrong :mrgreen:

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by chrl42 » Apr 6th, '12, 02:07

In search of truth wrote: Bocarro means 'wide mouth' and refers to the Yixing pots and teapots.
Relatively well-known Gongfucha quote has "Yixing teapot, wide not tall, circular not square" will it have a relation? :mrgreen:

Apr 8th, '12, 07:37

Re: Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 8th, '12, 07:37

I remember seeing a link on a thread on this site to Yixing Factory No. 1 Labels and wonder if anyone has the link ?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Yixing literature question.

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Apr 8th, '12, 19:10

Re: Yixing literature question.

by In search of truth » Apr 8th, '12, 19:10

Thabks Poohblah,the links are exactly what I was after.

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Re: Yixing literature question.

by bagua7 » Apr 8th, '12, 20:32

Maybe this other link will be of interest as well, if you happen to be a Yixing teapots collector:

http://gotheborg.com/marks/yixing.shtml

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