Please help to identify craftsmen mark

[leshka]

I just got a beautiful teapot and trying to find out more about it. Please help.

[leshka]

Here is the second one:

[leshka]

and few more images of the second teapot:

[leshka]

I would also like to know what does it say:

[the_economist]

These are shoe polish pots. I would not use them. Search 'shoe polish' on the forums.

[leshka]

These are shoe polish pots. I would not use them. Search 'shoe polish' on the forums.

I just paid $300 for this pair!! Are you certain?

[the_economist]

See here:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 60#p186105

Go buy pots from a proper seller like Origintea http://www.origintea.net/teaware/teapots.

[leshka]

I think you are right
These are my first pots. I was using cheap gaiwan and decided to upgrade.

Do you know the makers? or is it just some bogus marks??

The site you are referring two has a couple of pots. Is there anything else out there? I was hoping to purchased nice seasoned teapot... if it makes sense

[the_economist]

It does not really make sense to buy a seasoned pot. Most people derive pleasure from the process of seasoning their pot.

The craftsman mark is irrelevant when the pot is shoe-polished and fake. Getting fake stamps is pretty easy in Yixing.

[leshka]

Thanks for the information. Much appreciate it. I'm sending the pots back and start reading about teaware. I was concentrating on traditions and the tea, not on accessories.

I would most defiantly enjoy seasoning a pot. But I thought that it takes years.

Is it safe to buy pots on etsy? e.g. https://www.etsy.com/shop/Chinateaware? ... _leftnav_1

[the_economist]

I would argue that the teaware is part of the tradition. It doesn't take years to see the pot change. To toot my own horn, this is the result of less than a month of use:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 65#p260274

Without better pics I can't say for sure. I've recently acquired a bunch of pots from Origintea and I can say buying from there is safe. Those pots, as far as I can tell, are real 80s factory pots, and I have yet to see another vendor offer those types of pots at similar qualities for similar prices.

[chrl42]

I would argue that the teaware is part of the tradition. It doesn't take years to see the pot change. To toot my own horn, this is the result of less than a month of use:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 65#p260274

Without better pics I can't say for sure. I've recently acquired a bunch of pots from Origintea and I can say buying from there is safe. Those pots, as far as I can tell, are real 80s factory pots, and I have yet to see another vendor offer those types of pots at similar qualities for similar prices.

Qing Yin Zhong Guo Wu Long Cha..is 70s, Factory1 custom-ordered pots (Hongni),

current price around 7000~10000(+)RMB (over 1000USD)

80s had Qing Yin' Qing Shui Ni version, current price around 2000~3000 (400USD)

above are the classic ones, and there are also pots made in 80s and 90s, but doubtful they were Xiamen Company's custom-ordered ones,

correct me if I'm wrong

[the_economist]

Oh you're probably right. The Qingyin pots I posted are certainly not from the 70s or 80s. Definitely a later batch (late 80s/early 90s) and probably not commissioned from Xiamen Co, but probably still Factory 1.

Clay is good though, even if it isn't quite as super as the 'classic ones'. I personally like this type of clay more than late 80s Factory 1 chunbu hongni, but that's just my personal taste.

[SilentChaos]

I would argue that the teaware is part of the tradition. It doesn't take years to see the pot change. To toot my own horn, this is the result of less than a month of use:
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 65#p260274

Without better pics I can't say for sure. I've recently acquired a bunch of pots from Origintea and I can say buying from there is safe. Those pots, as far as I can tell, are real 80s factory pots, and I have yet to see another vendor offer those types of pots at similar qualities for similar prices.

Qing Yin Zhong Guo Wu Long Cha..is 70s, Factory1 custom-ordered pots (Hongni),

current price around 7000~10000(+)RMB (over 1000USD)

80s had Qing Yin' Qing Shui Ni version, current price around 2000~3000 (400USD)

above are the classic ones, and there are also pots made in 80s and 90s, but doubtful they were Xiamen Company's custom-ordered ones,

correct me if I'm wrong

Some are of the view that the first batch qing yin pots go back as far as mid 60s, and some think mid 70s, or late 70s.

[Tead Off]

These are shoe polish pots. I would not use them. Search 'shoe polish' on the forums.

I just paid $300 for this pair!! Are you certain?

I'm afraid the economist is right. There are a number of ebay sellers, mostly based in USA, that put up famous name teapots and all have the same patina. While the workmanship looks good on many of these pots, they are copies and have fake patinas. Not sure if the interiors of the pots have the same 'shoe polish' effect so you may still be able to use them after removing the exterior stains.