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Sad day

by Alucard » Jun 9th, '14, 16:42

:( :( cry
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by Peacock » Jun 9th, '14, 18:16

My condolences. For your pottery friend and you.

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Re: Sad day

by Chip » Jun 9th, '14, 18:34

Usually people break their lids ... you seem to have broken everything but the lid.

Bero?

Always sad to see a handmade teaware piece meet such an abrupt and seemingly premature end. But there is always a sense of impermanence which is supposed to be an appealing feature. :?

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Re: Sad day

by 茶藝-TeaArt08 » Jun 9th, '14, 18:43

Tea friend,

I'm so sorry...that moment where one has to sit with the demise of a cherished tea piece. Throughout the forum there are suggestions for fixing pieces such as this. I had one lid of a Korea infuser cup, master made, break and I repaired it to pretty-well-new condition.

In Taiwan I have a acquaintance friend, he is close with my tea teacher and the Qiu Shan Tang teahouse community (Petr met him and saw his work too and we both discussed how amazing the skill of this particular, quiet master is). He is a master repairer of such accidents using the traditional Chinese method. I saw one pot he repaired that, prior to being repaired, had been broken into at least 20 to 30 pieces; it was an amazing repair job and the pot now has its own wabi sabi quality to it. He incorporates metal, as in the Japanese tradition of repair, but also using the traditional Chinese method of repairing the breaks with small, fine, staple-like pieces. Holes are carefully drilled and the piece is completely reconstituted, with some chips or cracks being filled in with metal. I have a cherished pot that has two chips on the lid skirt that I have already arranged to have him fix when we return to Taiwan in October for the winter harvest.

If you'd like, should you choose to not try to fix it with the methods here in the forum, I could take the pieces with me to Taiwan this Autumn and/or email him photos of your broken piece and see what he says. Or I could email him and see, sending him a picture, if it is possible for you to ship him the pieces and find out how much it would be to fix. He is a quiet man, whom usually has a month wait time.

I'm sorry for the loss and the difficult reminder of the nature of impermanence.

Blessings!

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Re: Sad day

by Tead Off » Jun 9th, '14, 23:03

茶藝-TeaArt08 wrote:Tea friend,

I'm so sorry...that moment where one has to sit with the demise of a cherished tea piece. Throughout the forum there are suggestions for fixing pieces such as this. I had one lid of a Korea infuser cup, master made, break and I repaired it to pretty-well-new condition.

In Taiwan I have a acquaintance friend, he is close with my tea teacher and the Qiu Shan Tang teahouse community (Petr met him and saw his work too and we both discussed how amazing the skill of this particular, quiet master is). He is a master repairer of such accidents using the traditional Chinese method. I saw one pot he repaired that, prior to being repaired, had been broken into at least 20 to 30 pieces; it was an amazing repair job and the pot now has its own wabi sabi quality to it. He incorporates metal, as in the Japanese tradition of repair, but also using the traditional Chinese method of repairing the breaks with small, fine, staple-like pieces. Holes are carefully drilled and the piece is completely reconstituted, with some chips or cracks being filled in with metal. I have a cherished pot that has two chips on the lid skirt that I have already arranged to have him fix when we return to Taiwan in October for the winter harvest.

If you'd like, should you choose to not try to fix it with the methods here in the forum, I could take the pieces with me to Taiwan this Autumn and/or email him photos of your broken piece and see what he says. Or I could email him and see, sending him a picture, if it is possible for you to ship him the pieces and find out how much it would be to fix. He is a quiet man, whom usually has a month wait time.

I'm sorry for the loss and the difficult reminder of the nature of impermanence.

Blessings!
I would imagine that a repair of this kind would be significantly higher than the price of the teapot. Do you have any photos showing the work of this man?

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Re: Sad day

by FiveStar » Jun 9th, '14, 23:56

My condolances on the loss of a great pot! Who made this teapot? It is beautifully thrown, and hopefully can be repaired.

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Re: Sad day

by kyarazen » Jun 10th, '14, 01:22

ouch.

perhaps its time to pick up kintsugi?

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Re: Sad day

by MarshalN » Jun 10th, '14, 06:03

Looks like a Petr Novak pot. Condolences.

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Sad day

by Pig Hog » Jun 10th, '14, 07:00

I sympathise with you! I broke a lid the other day but this is sad indeed...

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Re: Sad day

by bob » Jun 10th, '14, 07:44

My condolences... Seems it was a very nice pot...

I didn't break any major teaware yet, but when it happens to me, I plan to glue it together myself (3D jigsaw puzzles are cool!) and put it on the shelf for display...

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by Poseidon » Jun 10th, '14, 09:08

bob wrote:My condolences... Seems it was a very nice pot...

I didn't break any major teaware yet, but when it happens to me, I plan to glue it together myself (3D jigsaw puzzles are cool!) and put it on the shelf for display...
My thoughts exactly. At leasts its a reason to replace the pot :lol:

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Re: Sad day

by 茶藝-TeaArt08 » Jun 10th, '14, 16:30

MarshalN wrote:Looks like a Petr Novak pot. Condolences.
Agreed. The spout, the throat around the spout, and the color of the clay make it a likely Petr piece. Thus, if so, then there is a grace in knowing that Petr is a prolific and affordable :D potter and one can replace the pot with a new one. One may even, being that Petr is a friend of the forum, request a new pot be made in the manner and flavor of the previously broken pot from, more or less, the same clay.
I would imagine that a repair of this kind would be significantly higher than the price of the teapot. Do you have any photos showing the work of this man?
Teadoff, the price is not cheap (but the price is in Taiwan NT dollars and thus more affordable than one might think), and if the recently broken pot is a Petr piece, then one can replace the former piece with a new teapot rather easily. I don't know the degree of attachment Alucard has to the broken pot. If the pot is a truly cherished pot then maybe it could be worth an attempt at formal repair using traditional means. A pot repaired in the manner of the gentleman I mentioned is less a exercise in "fixing an old pot" than it is "an investment in a new pot using broken pieces of a shattered pot." The artisan I referenced operates a small Japanese teaware antique shop in Taizhong, Taiwan, on a side street near the Meishuguan Qiu Shan Tang with his wife whom teaches chayi in a tea studio above their shop. He is perhaps one of the most soft-spoken, subtle people I have ever met and has a curious little work area full of arcane looking tools where he silently works away until a guest enters, in which case, he stops, gets up, and begins to serve puerh tea.

When my mother-in-law visited the shop with me she remarked that the repaired pieces are more special and attractive in some instances than they were before being originally broken. The look of a repaired piece is interesting and the aesthetic may not be for everyone. I like the look and almost bought a repaired pot from him, one that had been broken into many pieces previously.

Our computer is overloaded with pictures right now (what happens when one has a 4 year old son's life documented on every outing). So I have yet to even digest all the pictures from May's trip to Taiwan. I don't believe I took pictures, but I can email him at some point to get some shots. I believe it would be interesting for other members of the forum to see his work and I'll look into finding some pictures.

Blessings!

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Re: Sad day

by Tead Off » Jun 11th, '14, 00:43

It's interesting to observe what we can train ourselves to believe in.

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Re: Sad day

by rdl » Jun 11th, '14, 11:58

Tead Off wrote:It's interesting to observe what we can train ourselves to believe in.
Tead Off,
I usually get your reference with this comment, but this time I don't. How do you mean?

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Re: Sad day

by Tead Off » Jun 12th, '14, 03:44

rdl wrote:
Tead Off wrote:It's interesting to observe what we can train ourselves to believe in.
Tead Off,
I usually get your reference with this comment, but this time I don't. How do you mean?
How we can repair a broken teapot and teach ourselves to look at it differently. Somehow, it becomes something other than a broken teapot.

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