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Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by mith242 » Oct 21st, '14, 19:23

New to the forum and have gotten into Yixing teapots within the past year. While looking for new websites selling Yixing pots I've started coming across a few Jianshui and Nixing pots. From what little I've read, I've gotten the impression over all most people aren't as impressed with Jianshui or Nixing as compared to Yixing. I was just wondering if anyone had any opinion or more info on this. Is it possibly because Yixing have been appreciated for a longer period and there's more variety and a more mature audience for them? Does anyone think this is simply other areas of China trying to cash in on the Yixing crowd?
Guess I'm just wondering if I'd be better off collecting more Yixing pots or if I should maybe look more into a Jianshui or Nixing pot even though there's not as much info out there on these others. For that matter does anyone have any suggestions on what type of teas would pair best with a Jianshui or Nixing pot?

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by drinking_teas » Oct 21st, '14, 20:51

good question, not sure.

although I know that Chaozhou pots are very good for Dancong oolongs, and are supposed to work pretty nicely for other oolongs as well.

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by chrl42 » Oct 21st, '14, 23:39

Jianshui and Nixing teapots pair very well with Heicha/cooked Puerh. I think they are pretty decent teapots.

Yixing is very well known, but for the price per se, I'd go with latter :D

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by bagua7 » Oct 22nd, '14, 00:21

Yixing clay is prime clay as opposed to the rest due to its unique composition of kaolin, which gives zisha ware its good fired strength and stone-like quality; mica, which accounts for its rough, sandy texture and a high content of iron oxide. Zisha ware is fired to 1100-1200°C and that causes most red earthenware become vitrified (hard, causing the formation of glass in the clay body and a loss of porosity) but because of the high kaolin content of zisha clay, when fired at such high temperatures the clay still retains a certain degree of porosity (~2%).

Source: The Stonewares of Yixing: From the Ming Period to the Present Day (1986)


Not worth buying pots made of lesser clays just for cooked puerh, lol. Stick to duan ni and jiangpo ni, they brew delicious ripe puerh. ;)

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by thirst » Oct 22nd, '14, 16:23

Seems like an interesting book. Too bad it’s out of print and used editions are extremely expensive…

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by kyarazen » Oct 24th, '14, 01:12

thirst wrote:Seems like an interesting book. Too bad it’s out of print and used editions are extremely expensive…
i had made a soft copy of this book for reading when i carried an ipad around, but not sure if i'm able to share nor distribute it unless someone can advice on the intellectual property and publisher rights

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by Poseidon » Oct 24th, '14, 08:44

kyarazen wrote:
thirst wrote:Seems like an interesting book. Too bad it’s out of print and used editions are extremely expensive…
i had made a soft copy of this book for reading when i carried an ipad around, but not sure if i'm able to share nor distribute it unless someone can advice on the intellectual property and publisher rights
If its not against rule, I would be interested in that file. Is the book in english?

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by wert » Oct 24th, '14, 09:47

How about other hard to find books? If the rules are OK with copyright laws, please do share those as well. I would make a list of books I want.

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by kyarazen » Oct 24th, '14, 09:57

wert wrote:How about other hard to find books? If the rules are OK with copyright laws, please do share those as well. I would make a list of books I want.
i'm sure you dont have any difficulty finding any books that you want with your resourcefulness. you should be able to borrow them from your friends too

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by wert » Oct 24th, '14, 13:50

kyarazen wrote:
wert wrote:How about other hard to find books? If the rules are OK with copyright laws, please do share those as well. I would make a list of books I want.
i'm sure you dont have any difficulty finding any books that you want with your resourcefulness. you should be able to borrow them from your friends too
Alas, my resources, both mentally and physically is very limited. So, please don't tease me anymore.

I can't find many of the interesting books and nobody seems to be willing to let those out of their sight, let alone let me borrow them.

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by bagua7 » Oct 24th, '14, 21:19

Is this only books about tea what you are after? If not, you can PM me if you like.

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by thirst » Oct 28th, '14, 18:58

kyarazen wrote:i had made a soft copy of this book for reading when i carried an ipad around, but not sure if i'm able to share nor distribute it unless someone can advice on the intellectual property and publisher rights
Sadly, I can’t imagine that not going against copyright laws. It’s a shame that out of print books aren’t re-published digitally.

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by bonescwa » Oct 28th, '14, 20:04

thirst wrote:
kyarazen wrote:i had made a soft copy of this book for reading when i carried an ipad around, but not sure if i'm able to share nor distribute it unless someone can advice on the intellectual property and publisher rights
Sadly, I can’t imagine that not going against copyright laws. It’s a shame that out of print books aren’t re-published digitally.
I won't tell if you don't ;)

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by entropyembrace » Oct 29th, '14, 01:28

thirst wrote:
kyarazen wrote:i had made a soft copy of this book for reading when i carried an ipad around, but not sure if i'm able to share nor distribute it unless someone can advice on the intellectual property and publisher rights
Sadly, I can’t imagine that not going against copyright laws. It’s a shame that out of print books aren’t re-published digitally.
I'm not a lawyer but...

If a book is out of print the copyright holder would have a very difficult time proving damages from unlicensed distribution of copies, which would make a fair use defense easy for non-commercial uses. Also, if it's out of print I doubt anyone cares to enforce the copyright anyway.

Google is taking advantage of this to publish "orphan" books

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Re: Yixing vs Jianshui and Nixing teapots

by Tead Off » Oct 29th, '14, 01:59

wert wrote:How about other hard to find books? If the rules are OK with copyright laws, please do share those as well. I would make a list of books I want.
Out of print books usually fall into the 'Public Domain' category. There shouldn't be any problem re-producing or copying into a file.

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