Looking for Dayi Reccomendations.

[UrbanMortis]

您們好! 我是鄭守韓,在台灣學中文.
Hello everyone, I a relatively new to puerh tea and and i have access to buy directly from the dayi online store in Taiwan http://dayi.taiwan.tmall.com/shop/view_ ... _CN:TB-GBK

I was wondering if you fine folks could recommend me some teas to buy for investment purposes. I prefer to buy just raw tea by the tong but if you think some ripe teas would be worthwhile i am open to suggestions. Thank you in advance. Happy New Year!!!! 新年快樂!!!

[puerhking]

Personally, given the massive inflation of prices over the past five or so years, I would be reluctant to use Dayi for investment purposes at this point.

[puyuan]

Since you are in Taiwan, unless you have an overspecific interest in Dayi, which doesn't seem to be the case, it would be far more interesting/rewarding to visit teahouses and shops instead. There is no place like TW for puerh. You'll be drinking teas orders of magnitude better than Dayi products, possibly for the same price or less. Depending on the place, people could be willing to introduce you step by step to puerh, too.


If I may add, a teahouse is the most fruitful (and enjoyable) enviroment for practicing the language that I ever found.

[UrbanMortis]

Personally, given the massive inflation of prices over the past five or so years, I would be reluctant to use Dayi for investment purposes at this point.

I see thank you for the information. I appreciate it immensely.

Since you are in Taiwan, unless you have an overspecific interest in Dayi, which doesn't seem to be the case, it would be far more interesting/rewarding to visit teahouses and shops instead. There is no place like TW for puerh. You'll be drinking teas orders of magnitude better than Dayi products, possibly for the same price or less. Depending on the place, people could be willing to introduce you step by step to puerh, too.


If I may add, a teahouse is the most fruitful (and enjoyable) enviroment for practicing the language that I ever found.

Thanks for the information. You are correct I am not dead set on dayi it is just that that brand is quite well known.

In my area (wanlong) we have a tea shop specializing in puerh but it seems to carry mostly older teas from cnnp, dayi, and another brand i can not recall. If you are familiar with the Taipei area could you tell me some places to buy puerh?

[drinking_teas]

definitely skip Dayi for investment purposes. Dayi prices have been dropping quite a bit.

I'd recommend dedicating a day to wandering the streets of Taipei, going into all of the smaller shops. You should find something nice. Taiwan is the best place to go shopping for tea.

[kyarazen]

yu lin or other brands can be reasonable too.

since you are coming from an investment perspective, i would say Dayi's still common "pu-erh" currency and will remain so for at least the next few years despite potential dynamic fluctuations. But if the tea quality is ok, the taste is ok, it may be good to buy in at a low point, something $30 turning into something $60 in a few years its pretty damn good return (100%?!)..

Old CNNP and earlier is something that will fluctuate in price as well, but will hold its value in the long run due to its totally inelastic supply.

would recommend being extremely careful about picking small transient brands/artisan teas weaker on branding and marketing. imagine you have access to some nice ninecat brand or flying snail brand of tea, tastes good, no one knows about it, you sweep all the stock, you run into a couple of risks, how will it age and will it become better in aging? when you want to sell it and no one knows about it, who would want to buy it? not good for monetary investment.

if you are a tea lover it's different, at least you can drink the tea, you appreciate its qualities. tea lovers are not the type of people whom would pay 100-200k for a red mark, 5-10k for a bingdao or laobanzhang cake, you will find it hard to make $$ from real tea lovers.

[puyuan]

I had missed the "investment purposes" part, sorry. I still wouldn't recommend Dayi, at least not right now. It's overinflated and bound to lose value soon.

[UrbanMortis]

Thanks guys for all the input! I have been thinking of what to buy and I have decided on purchasing some of the bigger named factory products (Menghai, CNNP, Xiaguan,) In addition to the bigger brands I will search out single orgin teas aswell. I can wait to start exploring and sampling the puerh of Taiwan as well as drinking more of the awesome Wulong they have here on the ROC.

[drinking_teas]

Thanks guys for all the input! I have been thinking of what to buy and I have decided on purchasing some of the bigger named factory products (Menghai, CNNP, Xiaguan,) In addition to the bigger brands I will search out single orgin teas aswell. I can wait to start exploring and sampling the puerh of Taiwan as well as drinking more of the awesome Wulong they have here on the ROC.

one piece of advice - don't purchase modern CNNP.

[UrbanMortis]

Thanks guys for all the input! I have been thinking of what to buy and I have decided on purchasing some of the bigger named factory products (Menghai, CNNP, Xiaguan,) In addition to the bigger brands I will search out single orgin teas aswell. I can wait to start exploring and sampling the puerh of Taiwan as well as drinking more of the awesome Wulong they have here on the ROC.

one piece of advice - don't purchase modern CNNP.

After what year is considered modern?

[shah82]

In real (and, I guess, money) terms? 1996. In practice (decent tea)? 2003.

[kyarazen]

Thanks guys for all the input! I have been thinking of what to buy and I have decided on purchasing some of the bigger named factory products (Menghai, CNNP, Xiaguan,) In addition to the bigger brands I will search out single orgin teas aswell. I can wait to start exploring and sampling the puerh of Taiwan as well as drinking more of the awesome Wulong they have here on the ROC.

just for fun... here's a post that's quite popular

http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA4MTU ... 3a17&scene

[Teaism]

您們好! 我是鄭守韓,在台灣學中文.
Hello everyone, I a relatively new to puerh tea and and i have access to buy directly from the dayi online store in Taiwan http://dayi.taiwan.tmall.com/shop/view_ ... _CN:TB-GBK

I was wondering if you fine folks could recommend me some teas to buy for investment purposes. I prefer to buy just raw tea by the tong but if you think some ripe teas would be worthwhile i am open to suggestions. Thank you in advance. Happy New Year!!!! 新年快樂!!!

Hi Urban Mortis,

Just to highlight this article on Dayi. For your info.

http://www.white2tea.com/2015/01/08/8-t ... -puer-tea/

Cheers!

[TwoDog2]

Hi Urban Mortis,

Just to highlight this article on Dayi. For your info.

http://www.white2tea.com/2015/01/08/8-t ... -puer-tea/

Cheers!

Teaism beat me to it!

When in Taiwan, it is easy to do a lot better than Dayi

[UrbanMortis]

Thanks for all the information guys! I really appreciate the time you spent submitting these replies.

Yesterday afternoon I visited a tea shop specializing in puer that have been operating at the same location for over 20 years. The people we very kind and allowed me to sample many of the teas they sale and even allowed me to take several more samples home for me to try. My overall experience was great. They told me to take my time with my purchases and come back whenever I wanted to try some more tea. I was so suprised that they even suggested I go to an area of Taipei that had more varieties for me to try.

When I was there I tasted 3 different Sheng's one was a 2007 XiaGuan, 2007 Dayi, and 2009 Yiwu which they told me was there house brand.
http://postimg.org/image/whyk7r987/
It was was really cool to taste the differences between the different teas and I was kind of shocked to see that in my opinion there house brand was far more tasty than the dayi or xiaguan.

Thanks guys for everything exploring the tea scene in Taipei is way more enjoyable than searching for vendors online! Plus I can sample the tea for free!