Buttery Oolongs

Owes its flavors to oxidation levels between green & black tea.


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Buttery Oolongs

by Drezden » Mar 6th, '15, 01:41

I once bought an ounce of an oolong I can't remember the name of, but the texture was buttery, it was amazing, the flavor was vegetal and sweet-ish. Do you have any suggestions of teas that are like this for me to try? It was rolled, I remember that.

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Buttery Oolongs

by mcrdotcom » Mar 6th, '15, 04:11

Milk oolong perhaps.

Green TieGuanYin, Baozhong, green goashan etc... Usually have vegetal, floral, sweet tastes with thick body (I could say creamy, not buttery).

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Alucard » Mar 6th, '15, 19:04

Milk oolongs are creamy (go figure), not so much buttery...at least with my tastes. High mountain oolongs such as Alishan, Lishan, or ShanLinXi tend to have a buttery, floral, veg. taste. The experts around here will have a better answer. Do you recall where you got it from?

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Drezden » Mar 6th, '15, 23:48

I think I used texture and flavor incorrectly in my original post. It was a few years ago when I had it so my memory isn't great, but buttery flavor rather than texture might be more accurate. The texture was pretty heavy though if that makes sense? I got it from J-Tea international.

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Drax » Mar 7th, '15, 11:03

Hrm, to be honest, I'm having trouble recalling any buttery oolongs. When I think buttery (like of buttered popcorn magnitude), I tend to think sencha more than oolong...

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by bilochun » Mar 7th, '15, 11:57

Drax wrote:Hrm, to be honest, I'm having trouble recalling any buttery oolongs. When I think buttery (like of buttered popcorn magnitude), I tend to think sencha more than oolong...
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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by bagua7 » Mar 7th, '15, 18:20

It was most likely a spring harvest TGY. Some Taiwanese oolongs leave that buttery feel in your mouth too.

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by AT333 » Mar 7th, '15, 19:42

bagua7 wrote:It was most likely a spring harvest TGY. Some Taiwanese oolongs leave that buttery feel in your mouth too.
...especially Dong Ding and Dayuling :mrgreen:

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Drezden » Mar 7th, '15, 20:32

Thanks everyone, I'll try out the teas you mentioned.

On the topic of oolongs, do roasted oolongs have more caffeine than green oolongs. Since they are more oxidized? Or is the caffeine content pretty similar?

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by mcrdotcom » Mar 8th, '15, 10:00

With regard to OP, chinese green teas tend to be buttery in my experience more so than oolong (which tends to be creamy as per my reply above).
Drezden wrote:On the topic of oolongs, do roasted oolongs have more caffeine than green oolongs. Since they are more oxidized? Or is the caffeine content pretty similar?
Roasted oolongs have less caffeine in them, for that exact reason I think. As a rule of thumb (I think), dark teas, and therefore more oxidation, have less caffeine due to that oxidation. In my experience green oolongs are the most intoxicating!

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Bef » Mar 8th, '15, 10:07

Yes, less processed tea contains more caffeine. Even for a given tea type, say green tea, some leaves can contain 5x the caffeine of others. Looking at lab analysis reports on that matter is quite surprising.

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Drezden » Mar 8th, '15, 14:13

I understand the logic between higher caffeine levels and less processed tea leaves, but what I'm talking about more is the bioavailability of the caffeine. I can drink green tea right before bed and fall asleep quickly, if I drank a black tea before bed I wouldn't be able to fall asleep.

What accounts for that? I mean the black tea is the most processed, yet gives me the biggest caffeine alert feeling?

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by debunix » Mar 8th, '15, 14:26

Drezden wrote:I can drink green tea right before bed and fall asleep quickly, if I drank a black tea before bed I wouldn't be able to fall asleep.

What accounts for that? I mean the black tea is the most processed, yet gives me the biggest caffeine alert feeling?
I have to think that Western-style/CTC black teas are so broken up that the caffeine can diffuse out more readily than chinese-style greens. By this logic, though, matcha should be the most powerful caffeine boost. Since I don't drink either of these tea types regularly, though, I can't really test the theory properly.

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by steanze » Mar 8th, '15, 16:41

Yeah matcha is a pretty major caffeine boost :D

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Re: Buttery Oolongs

by Bef » Mar 8th, '15, 20:36

Drezden wrote:I understand the logic between higher caffeine levels and less processed tea leaves, but what I'm talking about more is the bioavailability of the caffeine. I can drink green tea right before bed and fall asleep quickly, if I drank a black tea before bed I wouldn't be able to fall asleep.

What accounts for that? I mean the black tea is the most processed, yet gives me the biggest caffeine alert feeling?
A vendor told me once that black tea contains some molecules (forgot the name) that would get the caffeine "absorbed" faster. Don't know any other source to check it that's true, though.

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