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Very nice.
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Very nice Zhuni! Beatiful example!betta wrote:My favourite pot acquired from Houde
Real original Zhuni with muscle or lobe lines visible near the handle, made in pre 60's with good clay.
High pitch, very good lid fit and extra fine and bright patina.
I am planning to sell it due to financial reason. So, any interest is welcomed
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Thx Hop, I was lucky to secure this genuine one.
The patina grows very fast and I learn the difference between old and new zhuni pots through this piece.
You are right that new zhuni pots are made of specially-treated red clay, not real zhuni clay.
I came to know that shrinkage line, high pitch sound and creamy outer surface aren't particularly specific to zhuni pots, in fact even regular zisha and red clay can be modified to have those characteristics.
BTW that's an awesome blog you're running there
The patina grows very fast and I learn the difference between old and new zhuni pots through this piece.
You are right that new zhuni pots are made of specially-treated red clay, not real zhuni clay.
I came to know that shrinkage line, high pitch sound and creamy outer surface aren't particularly specific to zhuni pots, in fact even regular zisha and red clay can be modified to have those characteristics.
BTW that's an awesome blog you're running there

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Thank you very much for your kind comment on my blog! I have fun doing it. I agree, the number of people out there who believe that they have a "Zhuni" pot in their collection when they really have a hongni piece is astounding. There are not more Zhunis on the market! You will never find a never used geninue zhuni unless you buy directly from a museum and/or a gallery.betta wrote:Thx Hop, I was lucky to secure this genuine one.
The patina grows very fast and I learn the difference between old and new zhuni pots through this piece.
You are right that new zhuni pots are made of specially-treated red clay, not real zhuni clay.
I came to know that shrinkage line, high pitch sound and creamy outer surface aren't particularly specific to zhuni pots, in fact even regular zisha and red clay can be modified to have those characteristics.
BTW that's an awesome blog you're running there
True, hongni can be manuipulated to look smooth in texture. Generally this is done by what is called "weathering" However, even weathered pieces command heirloom prices. Typically, the clay is stored for decades so that the microble activity breaks down the clay further. This is why they say " grandfather mined the clay, grandson makes the pot". I was lucky enough to find a piece made from the Er Pu gallery piece made of Zhuni. Although, I must admit, I did send Guang of HouDe pictures and he believes that their may be a chance that iit may be made of "weathered" Hongni but it is too hard to verify thru pictures alone. But I must say that it does have the zhuni indicators - seasons quite fast, high "ping" sound, creamy texture, and appears more red orange in strong light. If you would like I could add some pictures tonight to the thread.
Hop
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Hop, it would be my luck to see the pictureshop_goblin wrote:If you would like I could add some pictures tonight to the thread.

Can you probably also take a picture of the inside of the pot? I have a doubt to resolve, it is the shrinkage inside the pot which looks somehow more apparent.
Thanks Hop..
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Here is my Er Pu Zhuni or maybe "weathered" Hongni pot.. what do you think?betta wrote:Hop, it would be my luck to see the pictureshop_goblin wrote:If you would like I could add some pictures tonight to the thread.![]()
Can you probably also take a picture of the inside of the pot? I have a doubt to resolve, it is the shrinkage inside the pot which looks somehow more apparent.
Thanks Hop..





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My new Yixing Pot
Here is my latest addition! I keep neglecting to add it. I have had it now for 3 weeks and it brews a mean high moutain oolongs. It is 150cc and allegedly made of of old clays which were mined more than 10 years ago.






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Finally......after great anticipation from all of you.......here are my beloved brewing vessels!
*First We Will Start With The Hagi Set all purchased from www.artisticnippon.com and all made by Shibuya Deishi

The Cup:

The Yuzamashi:

The Kyusu:




My Personal Pu-Erh Set, consisting of 120ml yixing and 120ml yixing cup w/acai wood tray:

The Yixing for Pu when company comes over:

Group Shot of my main brewing vessels with their respective trays/stands:

All of my major brewing vessels from left to right and then rear; Hagi Kyusu, Yixing 120ml, Tokonome Kyusu, rear = 360ml Yixing

*First We Will Start With The Hagi Set all purchased from www.artisticnippon.com and all made by Shibuya Deishi

The Cup:

The Yuzamashi:

The Kyusu:




My Personal Pu-Erh Set, consisting of 120ml yixing and 120ml yixing cup w/acai wood tray:

The Yixing for Pu when company comes over:

Group Shot of my main brewing vessels with their respective trays/stands:

All of my major brewing vessels from left to right and then rear; Hagi Kyusu, Yixing 120ml, Tokonome Kyusu, rear = 360ml Yixing

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Thanks! It's somewhere around 150mL. I thought it would be (meaning, it was supposed to be) 110mL, but oh well.TaiPing Hou Kui wrote:Thats a nice pot scruff. What is its volumetric capacity, if I may ask.
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