Aw, I'm a sucker for packaging too! There's a crappy tea at my Uwajimaya that I want because the tin is so cool. It's called KING oolong. Haha! It's $4.99, but I just know that the tin won't be any good to store actual tea, so I have refrained until now.augie wrote:
What do you mean?augie wrote:After reading Bubba Tea's post on Dong Ding, and taking a wrong turn, I stopped at a local Asian food market. Actually, it has all Asian quisines, African, Mexican, everything but Hamburger Helper. Although, I wasn't in the mood for goat.
The translation on the back is funny. However I am wondering if anyone knows why they call it Tone Ting (and not Tung Ting)? Typo? Anyway, for tea from a local world market, it was great. Paid $8 bucks for 100g. Packaged on 01-14-2008.
I am a sucker for cool packaging:
And it did fulfill it's promise of a "leisurely, carefree mood".
It's a misspelling, because I have only every seen Dong Ding (Tung Ting). Tone Ting it says on the tin. Reading the english trans. on the back of the tin is a riot.chrl42 wrote: Tung Ting perhaps is Cantonese pronunciation or Taiwanese..
This tin pictures flowers and butterflies, but no cicadas! It has a cool spray coating over the printing to make the can appear irridescent.[/b]chrl42 wrote:I've heard Taiwanese tea tins have a number of flower to show the quality of leaves, I would not know..I've only bought from wholesalers..
It isn't a "misspelling", because the correct "spelling" is 凍頂 in traditional Chinese characters. There are different methods of romanization, and the sound represented in hanyu pinyin with "d" is kind of in between a "d" and a "t" (i.e., "doufu" (tofu)) - an "unaspirated t". In the past, "t" was used more often, hence "tung ting" or similar romanizations. The Taiwanese generally don't use hanyu pinyin, the system that mainland China uses for romanization, so people either just make it up semi-phonetically, or follow other romanization systems. Thus, what would be 'zhang' in Hanyu pinyin might be written 'chang', even as 'chang' might also be written as 'chang'.augie wrote:It's a misspelling, because I have only every seen Dong Ding (Tung Ting). Tone Ting it says on the tin. Reading the english trans. on the back of the tin is a riot.chrl42 wrote: Tung Ting perhaps is Cantonese pronunciation or Taiwanese..
Thanks once again for the no-BS big picture. Obviously, most of us are totally flummoxed by Chinese, no less the native speakers than us foreigners. The patience of a knowledgeable student of the language is much appreciated.wyardley wrote: It isn't a "misspelling", because the correct "spelling" is 凍頂 ...
Cool, thanks. Many times, when reading instructions or the backs of tins like this I just arrogantly assume that it's a misspelling or translation error. I need to be more open minded!wyardley wrote: It isn't a "misspelling", because the correct "spelling" is 凍頂 in traditional Chinese characters. There are different methods of romanization, . . . .
The actual sound in Mandarin Chinese is neither a d nor a t (also, the o in "dòng" is more like the o in "oh" than the o in "clock", and I don't think the "ng" would usually be quite as pronounced as in English, so "tone" is actually probably a little closer to the sound if pronounced phonetically than the way most english-speaking people would pronounce "tung". Also, the "i" is an "ee" sound when it's after a d.
Well, I was mentioning Pu Tong Hua (standard), the one you can find from a dictionary..wyardley wrote:It isn't a "misspelling", because the correct "spelling" is 凍頂 in traditional Chinese characters. There are different methods of romanization, and the sound represented in hanyu pinyin with "d" is kind of in between a "d" and a "t" (i.e., "doufu" (tofu)) - an "unaspirated t". In the past, "t" was used more often, hence "tung ting" or similar romanizations. The Taiwanese generally don't use hanyu pinyin, the system that mainland China uses for romanization, so people either just make it up semi-phonetically, or follow other romanization systems. Thus, what would be 'zhang' in Hanyu pinyin might be written 'chang', even as 'chang' might also be written as 'chang'.augie wrote:It's a misspelling, because I have only every seen Dong Ding (Tung Ting). Tone Ting it says on the tin. Reading the english trans. on the back of the tin is a riot.chrl42 wrote: Tung Ting perhaps is Cantonese pronunciation or Taiwanese..
The actual sound in Mandarin Chinese is neither a d nor a t (also, the o in "dòng" is more like the o in "oh" than the o in "clock", and I don't think the "ng" would usually be quite as pronounced as in English, so "tone" is actually probably a little closer to the sound if pronounced phonetically than the way most english-speaking people would pronounce "tung". Also, the "i" is an "ee" sound when it's after a d.
You can hear some recordings of both words at:
http://www.nciku.com/search/zh/detail/%E5%86%BB/1303442
http://www.nciku.com/search/all/%E9%A0%82
I'm not sure how you would say this (if at all) in Taiwanese, but I'll ask around.
..Wow - that website is too cool! Great addition to my old standby http://zhongwen.com/wyardley wrote:You can hear some recordings of both words at:
http://www.nciku.com/search/zh/detail/%E5%86%BB/1303442
http://www.nciku.com/search/all/%E9%A0%82
I'm not sure how you would say this (if at all) in Taiwanese, but I'll ask around.
It is always funny that they only tell you so much, then leave the rest to our imagination. "Activity" is a pretty open ... activity. They word it similarly on their site as well.Our Ming Xiang oolong tea is produced on Dong Ding Mountain. This oolong tea has a unique honey aroma which is produced from activities of cicadas on the tea leaves. The honey aroma of Dong Ding Ming Xiang is a guarantee that the tea is organic - pesticides would keep the cicadas away.
