Ok Chinese tea/medicine gurus, is this dude for real?I'm pretty sure that green tea causes your qi to rise - and sometimes too strongly, which makes the stomach qi rebel upwards, causing nausea. Sometimes my eyes even wig out - causing nystagmus.
Jan 5th, '09, 16:43
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Green tea is generally regarded as cooling, and to descend the qi. But young tea, such as young sheng, can cause rebellious qi, which could cause nausea. Green tea like japanese greens, though, are not considered "young" teas, as there is no need (or desire) to allow them to develop. I'm not sure what the eye thing is about, the spleen/stomach pair, when qi is out of balance, usually causes nausea and salivary issues.
It sounds like this person read a paper on TCM and has psyched himself into some random symptoms. *shrug*
It sounds like this person read a paper on TCM and has psyched himself into some random symptoms. *shrug*
Jan 6th, '09, 01:06
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I've felt an upset stomach sensation after drinking some Taiwanese green oolongs, but I wouldn't describe it as nausea, and I wouldn't ascribe it to any Qi effects, not that I would really know.
I believe I have noticed a positive Qi effect once, after drinking pu-erh for the first time. It was unique and not subtle.
I believe I have noticed a positive Qi effect once, after drinking pu-erh for the first time. It was unique and not subtle.
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I think it's one thing to talk about various kinds of "qi" with tea - whether it's a calming, warm qi, or a strong qi that leaves you tea drunk. I think it's another thing, however, to start talking about qi in terms of physical ailments. Whether you attribute something like this to qi or not, I just don't see any reason to say anything more than "it upset my stomach."
The way I see these things is just that it's how they traditionally explained these things before they had modern science to find out the actual cause. I think the Chinese did a remarkable job of making a system of explaining and dealing with these things, but we know better now. When it comes to something like tea that has such a rich tradition and is far more art than science, then it just makes sense to describe the 'cha qi.' However, if I get over-caffeinated from tea then I'm still going to say that I'm 'over-caffeinated,' rather than talk about qi.
The way I see these things is just that it's how they traditionally explained these things before they had modern science to find out the actual cause. I think the Chinese did a remarkable job of making a system of explaining and dealing with these things, but we know better now. When it comes to something like tea that has such a rich tradition and is far more art than science, then it just makes sense to describe the 'cha qi.' However, if I get over-caffeinated from tea then I'm still going to say that I'm 'over-caffeinated,' rather than talk about qi.