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Japanese Green: Buying for Beginner: Hibiki-an Superior

by beachape » Jan 31st, '09, 00:26

Hello

I've been drinking lots of Chinese green for many years, but decided it was time to try Japanese green.

I was considering buying the "Superior Tea Tasting Set" from Hibiki-an which has 100g of their Gyokuro Superior, Sencha Superior, and Sencha Fukamushi Superior. I've heard some members say that the superior grades aren't too great. However, I am cost-conscious and drink a lot of tea. Is the hibiki-an "superior" grade something to stay away from?

I don't want to be turned off to Japanese green tea from the beginning, but I also don't want to start with anything too expensive. Sorry to be so picky. I would greatly appreciate your suggestions.

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by Wesli » Jan 31st, '09, 00:43

This is what I recommend to all newcomers to the Nippon leaf...

http://www.denstea.com/index.php?main_p ... th=174_173

I don't recommend Hibiki-an because some people just don't like their tea (I'm one of them), however some people enjoy it.

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by Salsero » Jan 31st, '09, 00:50

Wesli tells the truth. You even get the $3 cost back as a refund on your next order! And Den's is probably the only stateside Japanese tea vendor that carries premo leaf.

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by Pentox » Jan 31st, '09, 01:04

Salsero wrote:And Den's is probably the only stateside Japanese tea vendor that carries premo leaf.

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by Salsero » Jan 31st, '09, 01:30

Pentox wrote:
Salsero wrote:And Den's is probably the only stateside Japanese tea vendor that carries premo leaf.

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Oops ... and Lupicia. :oops:

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by Oni » Jan 31st, '09, 01:32

If you own a kyusu, try their Fukamushi Super Premium, you cannot go wrong with that, that is simply the best fukamushi I have tasted, and try their gyokuro premium, order these two for the first time, and you will fall in love with japanese tea, and don`t brew gyokuro according to their recomandation, use more leaf and less water, 10 grams for 120 ml, 55 C, 2 minutes, 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, 3 minutes.

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by Chip » Jan 31st, '09, 01:43

I would NOT recommend the Superior tasting SET from Hibiki-an, the gyokuro superior really turned me off, and it really is not true gyokuro in my mind. The Fukamushi Superior is a good deal. Never had the Sencha Superior.

The Den's $3 deal is hard to beat, and you get to try a few different Japanese teas.

O-Cha has a Daily Sencha that is a nice introduction to sencha for the budget conscious.
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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by Pentox » Jan 31st, '09, 01:46

The den's deal is a great starting point imo. Past that though I would stay away from anything that comes in 100g packs for a while. 50g or 2oz packages let you hit up a lot more variety without the commitment to a particular tea.

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by Wesli » Jan 31st, '09, 02:02

Salsero wrote:
Pentox wrote:
Salsero wrote:And Den's is probably the only stateside Japanese tea vendor that carries premo leaf.

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Oops ... and Lupicia. :oops:
Don't forget Itoen!

I'm with Chip on gyokuro superior. There's something wrong with it.

My other recommendation is to try an asamushi (light-steamed) sencha and a fukamushi (deep-steamed) sencha. They're both quite different, and carry their own respective fanbases....



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by Space Samurai » Jan 31st, '09, 03:27

Wesli wrote:I don't recommend Hibiki-an because some people just don't like their tea (I'm one of them), however some people enjoy it.
I've never had a bad tea from Hibiki, but none of their teas have ever truly excited me. I would sooner order from Den's.

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by beachape » Jan 31st, '09, 14:13

Thanks to everyone who replied.

Which Den's Teas do you recommend I start out with? It seems they have a few grades per type. Are the less expensive grades still good (Like Gyokuro Kin, Sencha Fuka-midori, Fukamushi-Sencha special)?

Also, it seems from your replies that I might want to stay away from hibiki-an's superior grade. What about their Premium Gyokuro or Sencha?Also, are the organics something to stay away from? Sorry to keep asking about hibiki-an, but I like the idea of ordering direct from the farm.
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by olivierco » Jan 31st, '09, 14:22

Premium grades from Hibiki-an are good quality teas, a very good start with Japanese greens.

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by stjobs » Jan 31st, '09, 15:22

The Sencha Superior and Sencha Fukamushi Superior are enjoyable. As you said you drink a lot of tea, I think these would be good. If are concerned about cost, though, gyokuro may not be the best choice.

I would be wary of categorical advice about particular vendors: the preferences of others may not match your own.

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by Jack_teachat » Jan 31st, '09, 17:51

If brewed well both are very pleasant fresh tasting senchas, a good starting point I would say.

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by tenuki » Jan 31st, '09, 18:50

I'll go out on a limb a bit and state that I like the sencha premier from adagio just fine too btw. I wouldn't argue with the Den's sampler either and Dens is pretty much where I get all my japanese greens too (my local Uwijamaya stocks them). Start simple and small, then branch out in the directions you like.

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