Itoen - best gyokuro?

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Itoen - best gyokuro?

by TokyoB » Mar 10th, '09, 16:57

Hi. This may have been discussed before but if so I couldn't find it. I have a chance to go to the Itoen store in NY in a couple of days. Can anyone recommend a gyokuro from there? Thanks.
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by Pentox » Mar 10th, '09, 17:07

I don't know about in store, but online they only have an uji and a yame gyo. Personally my tastes lean toward the yame stuff. Mmmm yame.

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by chingwa » Mar 10th, '09, 19:33

They offer a lot more tea in the store than they do online. I've never tried any of their gyokuro however...

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by inspectoring » Mar 12th, '09, 00:56

A M A Z I N G !!!..

I was inexperienced at first and did give it some thumbs down but now - OMG - some of the best stuff. I strongly recommend it.
Please note I have never used O-cha and some here swear by it.

Therefore - I really really really wish that someone who has tried both would post a comparative review before I put away another 50 $ !!

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by Chip » Mar 12th, '09, 01:28

You can ask to try gyokuro in the store.
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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by inspectoring » Mar 14th, '09, 02:47

Chip wrote:You can ask to try gyokuro in the store.
I have tried it and I believe I am on my 5th can - but I would hate to think that I could get something lot better than what I get at ito-en for the same money. Logically, based on what I read here - it seems like o-cha may be the one.

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by Chip » Mar 14th, '09, 08:33

inspectoring wrote:I have tried it and I believe I am on my 5th can - but I would hate to think that I could get something lot better than what I get at ito-en for the same money. Logically, based on what I read here - it seems like o-cha may be the one.
I have simply never tried another gyokuro as good as Kame. At 27.95 USD per 50 grams it is still an excellent value because it is soooo good. It is knee bucling good, makes you sit down and take notice.

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by TokyoB » Mar 14th, '09, 10:36

Well I picked up an ounce of the Yame Gyokuro at Ito-En. Will let you know how it goes. I also couldn't resist picking up an ounce of a sencha that was entered into a competition, although it didn't win/place - "Hoshino Comp. Grade Sencha" #153 - it was $27/oz. I tried it this morning and it was very good. It is always difficult to tell if a tea in this price range is "worth it". I think I may have used too little leaf though. Ito-en recommends a teaspoon which I weighed - and is only about 1.6 grams for 6 oz water (176F for 1 - 1.5 min). I actually used 2 teaspoons and had to wait 2 min to get a good brewing. Next time I'll use more leaf I think.

Back to gyokuro - So, Chip, your vote is for the Ito-en over O-cha Yame Gyokuro?
Inspectoring - did you say you received the Ito-en Yame in a can?
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by Chip » Mar 14th, '09, 10:57

:lol: Ito-en is pretty good at upselling you when you visit the store, but they generally do it with good tea (not like Teavana doing it with crappy tea).

I would only buy from them when visiting NY and stopping by the store. But I feel sales staff is required to show you good stuff once they see you have interest. I happened to catch the eye contact between the boss and my sales associate right before he upsold me. It was fine, because I did get only one ounce each of a few things that were quite good.

However, I did not try Ito-en's Yame Gyokuro, so I cannot answer that question, TokyoB. I did however just try a Yame costing almost 2X as much as the O-Cha Yame, the O-Cha impressed me in how well it stood up to this more pricy version.
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by TokyoB » Mar 14th, '09, 11:30

Chip - think I misunderstood you - so is it the Uji Gyokuro "Kame-Giru-Shi" that you prefer?
Thanks!

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by Chip » Mar 14th, '09, 11:43

TokyoB wrote:Chip - think I misunderstood you - so is it the Uji Gyokuro "Kame-Giru-Shi" that you prefer?
Thanks!
:lol: The names get a little confusing to say the least, so I shorten excessively sometimes.

Yes, Kame-Giru-Shi = da bombe!
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by olivierco » Mar 14th, '09, 12:35

Chip wrote:
Yes, Kame-Giru-Shi = da bombe!
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Re: Itoen - best gyokuro?

by joelbct » Mar 14th, '09, 13:23

TokyoB wrote: I have a chance to go to the Itoen store in NY in a couple of days. Can anyone recommend a gyokuro from there? Thanks.
The Ito En shop staff is very knowledgeable and enthusiastic about japanese tea, and they may have off-menu stuff available, so I'd suggest asking what they recommend when u go in there.

The Yame Gyo is amazing, and I think the Uji is pretty good too.

As for value, as always, I recommend the Chiran and Megami sencha... Kawane Sencha and Uji Kabuse are great too.

And their Kago and Shizuoka shincha is fantastic, should be available in a couple months...

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by inspectoring » Mar 15th, '09, 03:20

TokyoB wrote:Well I picked up an ounce of the Yame Gyokuro at Ito-En. Will let you know how it goes. I also couldn't resist picking up an ounce of a sencha that was entered into a competition, although it didn't win/place - "Hoshino Comp. Grade Sencha" #153 - it was $27/oz. I tried it this morning and it was very good. It is always difficult to tell if a tea in this price range is "worth it". I think I may have used too little leaf though. Ito-en recommends a teaspoon which I weighed - and is only about 1.6 grams for 6 oz water (176F for 1 - 1.5 min). I actually used 2 teaspoons and had to wait 2 min to get a good brewing. Next time I'll use more leaf I think.

Back to gyokuro - So, Chip, your vote is for the Ito-en over O-cha Yame Gyokuro?
Inspectoring - did you say you received the Ito-en Yame in a can?
Well - I got the Uji Gyokuro in the can - I believe that is the only one they sell in the can. Now I guess I would try to get the Yame.


Also - please keep in mind as I see that Megami is recommended. There is a HUGE difference between the can and the loose tea you get from them. The cans are almost always not as fresh as the loose one you receive.
Just something to keep in mind.

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by Selaphiel » Mar 15th, '09, 08:33

Chip wrote:
TokyoB wrote:Chip - think I misunderstood you - so is it the Uji Gyokuro "Kame-Giru-Shi" that you prefer?
Thanks!
:lol: The names get a little confusing to say the least, so I shorten excessively sometimes.

Yes, Kame-Giru-Shi = da bombe!
What he said

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