Know of a TGY with Endurance?

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Know of a TGY with Endurance?

by tea fish » Apr 10th, '09, 14:16

Hi all--

I've been drinking Rishi's TGY and love the stuff--it's caroby and fruity and has great body for the first couple of infusions. After that, it's sweet but comparatively insipid. Or maybe the later infusions are just too subtle for my palate. Anyway, I'm wondering if anybody knows of a TGY that maintains its lip-smacking TGY tastiness up to the 4th infusion or so. Maybe I'm hoping for too much. But if such a TGY exists, let me know please!

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by gingkoseto » Apr 10th, '09, 14:31

Maybe as you said, it's just subtle for your palate, especially if you prefer darker teas like puerh, black tea or heavy roasted oolong. Or maybe you can try to use more leaves? I believe most TGY can last for >5 infusions, and many can go above 7.
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Re: Know of a TGY with Endurance?

by TIM » Apr 10th, '09, 14:56

tea fish wrote:Hi all--

I've been drinking Rishi's TGY and love the stuff--it's caroby and fruity and has great body for the first couple of infusions. After that, it's sweet but comparatively insipid. Or maybe the later infusions are just too subtle for my palate. Anyway, I'm wondering if anybody knows of a TGY that maintains its lip-smacking TGY tastiness up to the 4th infusion or so. Maybe I'm hoping for too much. But if such a TGY exists, let me know please!
The Tea Gallery Dark roasted TGY could carries a min. 3 days. If brew traditionally. Perhaps 8-12 solid dark brews?

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by teaskeptic » Apr 10th, '09, 15:04

If you're looking for a roasted version, I agree with Tim

If not... no idea. I haven't had much green tgy.

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by scruffmcgruff » Apr 10th, '09, 15:05

Do you steep with boiling water? It might help extract a bit more flavor. If that doesn't work, try Just4Tea's roasted TGY. Yum!

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by Herb_Master » Apr 10th, '09, 17:37

I generally get between 5 and 7 infusions out of my TGY from Rich Barnarian and Wan Ling UK

as mentioned here with Rich Barbarian's summer offering.

http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... c&start=30

I know about a dozen other members bought from Rich Barbarian - but have not heard much from them about how many infusions they get!

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by wyardley » Apr 10th, '09, 20:01

Aside from water temperature as already mentioned, you might want to try using more leaf. When people are talking about brewing this type of tea for more than 4 or 5 infusions, they're typically using a fair amount of dry leaf - maybe enough to fill (or even overflow) the brewing vessel completely with leaves when they're fully open.

I personally prefer the medium / high fire roasted and more-oxidized TGYs, but even the greener ones should last at least 5-7 infusions if they're decent.

If you are using a lot of leaf and hot water and the tea gives out quickly still, could be bad quality tea, or could be artificially scented.

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by murrius » Apr 10th, '09, 22:59

Herb_Master wrote:
I know about a dozen other members bought from Rich Barbarian - but have not heard much from them about how many infusions they get!

I have never reached the end of infusions from the TGY from Rich Barbarian. After 5 steeps the tea is still doing fine but I'm done. :)

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Re: Know of a TGY with Endurance?

by tenuki » Apr 11th, '09, 02:12

TIM wrote: The Tea Gallery Dark roasted TGY could carries a min. 3 days. If brew traditionally. Perhaps 8-12 solid dark brews?
http://www.theteagallery.com/Iron_Bodhi ... of-cib.htm

this one?


The 12 yr old tgy that FLT had this winter lasts a long time for me. aged tky is about the only tky I usually like. Anyone else try that one?

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by Tead Off » Apr 11th, '09, 05:38

gingko wrote:Maybe as you said, it's just subtle for your palate, especially if you prefer darker teas like puerh, black tea or heavy roasted oolong. Or maybe you can try to use more leaves? I believe most TGY can last for >5 infusions, and many can go above 7.
So many variables it's hard to comment. I use a Guan Yin Wang that I buy here in Bangkok. Anxi origin and not dark but quite green. It giveth and giveth. I use about 25% leaf in my pot, brew gong fu in red clay pot, and, usually have my fill before the flavor dies. For me, it's not the flavor that makes the difference but the finish. A good TGY in the right pot will produce a very long finish that will linger in the mouth for quite a long time. Happy brewing.......

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by tea fish » Apr 11th, '09, 19:33

Thanks for the leads on tea suppliers. I'll definitely check them out. Just the presentation of the TGY on the Tea Gallery website made me start to salivate. I also think that I might need to adjust my tea expectations. Tea aint soda--it's not the kind of beverage where the flavor is standardized and therefore predictable. Part of what I like about tea is the range of variation between infusions. And just because I love the second infusion doesn't mean that the subsequent, subtler infusions suck. (That said, the idea of an eternal supply of the second infusion of Rishi's TGY is very appealing...and I should perhaps clarify that I've never been disappointed with the quality of anything from Rishi, nor am I now...I might just be ready for a slightly higher end TGY.) In any case, I will meanwhile try more leaf and hotter water. Thanks all!

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by Tead Off » Apr 12th, '09, 06:15

I try to buy only organic teas. Many from Taiwan are indeed organic but often not certified as it is an expensive process that smaller farms don't want to go through and the majority of their production is for domestic use. Teafromtaiwan.com is a good source. Just ask which ones are organic. Very helpful folks.

Jing Tea shop in Guangzhou is another excellent source for organic oolongs. I don't know if their TGY is organic as I haven't bought theirs.

Both suppliers are in touch with the source and have their pulse on the current offerings, the quality, and, the state of tea in both areas. This is important.

Also, don't rule out the Taiwan TGY. I have tasted one recently and was impressed.

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by tea fish » Apr 12th, '09, 10:00

In fact I just bought a couple of samplers from Teafromtaiwan.com a few days ago! Now that I've read your recommendation, Tead off, I'm especially looking forward to their arrival. I don't think that a TGY was among the teas in the samplers, but the samplers looked like a good deal from a good company. Glad to hear from someone else that the company is indeed a good one.

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by hooksie » Apr 12th, '09, 14:36

scruffmcgruff wrote:Do you steep with boiling water? It might help extract a bit more flavor. If that doesn't work, try Just4Tea's roasted TGY. Yum!
http://just4tea.com/Tie_Guan_Yin.php

This one?
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by Salsero » Apr 12th, '09, 14:37

hooksie wrote: This one?
Yep

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