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Aging Yixing tea pot before using?

by TIM » Apr 21st, '09, 12:11

I just acquired my "first" new Yixing teapot online. It was made perhaps weeks ago before it arrived. The clay touches and feels like very fresh clay, which something I felt in the process of wheeling a pottery.

May questions to yixing lovers are, what's pros and cons on using very freshly made yixing? The sound of the pot is still very heavy and "wet", with lots of low tone and weighty on the hand. My guess is, it could soak up good amount of aroma from tea? My experience of older yixings are the lightness of the pot, even it looks heavy and large, with a more clear echo to the sound.

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by MarshalN » Apr 21st, '09, 12:44

If it's heavy -- are the walls thick?

I'd just let it sit for a while, maybe soak it in water for a few days or weeks, before using it for anything

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by babalian » Apr 21st, '09, 13:36

the new yixing even with all the boiling and soaking would still have a little bit clay smell when you first start to use it. However after a couple of tmes brewing the smell should be gone. Also since the new pot have not been soaked up with tea oil yet, your first couple of brew would not be as good as you expect.

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by TIM » Apr 21st, '09, 15:41

MarshalN wrote:If it's heavy -- are the walls thick?

I'd just let it sit for a while, maybe soak it in water for a few days or weeks, before using it for anything
The walls are medium thickness. Heavier then reg. SP. Will try to soak it for a couple of days before testing.

My other questions to Potters out there specially Mr. Bears3. Can you use a piece which just finish firing the week after? Or people usually wait before using, let say, a cup to drink with?

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by bcos » Apr 22nd, '09, 01:38

Does this pot happen to be a Shui Ping from chen?

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by finddream2020 » Apr 22nd, '09, 08:59

bcos wrote:Does this pot happen to be a Shui Ping from chen?
yes, i think so.

we make teapot ourself, so the teapot is very fresh. so it has low tone.

the teapot is heavy not his wall thick, but because the different Density. this clay is zi qie ni, one kind of zi ni, his density is high than qingshuini,dicao qing etc. so the pot alittle heavy.

the second reason is the different tech between old teapot and now teapot. now teapot use "two fire tech" to let the inside and the outside has the same color, and let the lid tight. so the now teapot has a little heavy than old one about 70's-90's.

when you use some times, the teapot will turn lighter and the sound will not low tone but clear echo.

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Re: Aging Yixing tea pot before using?

by swozt » Apr 22nd, '09, 11:49

TIM wrote:I just acquired my "first" new Yixing teapot online. It was made perhaps weeks ago before it arrived. The clay touches and feels like very fresh clay, which something I felt in the process of wheeling a pottery.

May questions to yixing lovers are, what's pros and cons on using very freshly made yixing? The sound of the pot is still very heavy and "wet", with lots of low tone and weighty on the hand. My guess is, it could soak up good amount of aroma from tea? My experience of older yixings are the lightness of the pot, even it looks heavy and large, with a more clear echo to the sound.
COngrats on your purchase.

Well, I guess the pros is that your tea will actually be "worse" than as compared to being brewed in a Gaiwan.

Using Yixing is like a loving relationship. But before it can love you, you will have to show you love it first by "giving" it some tea to absorb. Once it is a bit more seasoned, it will "return" that love to you.

Alternatively, you can use it as a pitcher for a couple of months and then use it for brewing.

For me, I also bought a new Yixing pot. Currently when I dont drink pu-erh, I will just brew some lower grade pu-erh which i dont exactly like and then use it to just season the new teapot. At the same time, it also helps build up a Patina.

I am no expert, but just put in my 2 cents worth.

Drink in good health!!

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by Tead Off » Apr 22nd, '09, 12:17

Tim, you might want to check out this link which will tell you more about Yixing pots than you probably need to know but is highly interesting.

http://www.terebess.hu/english/yixing1.html

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by TIM » Apr 22nd, '09, 12:41

Tead Off wrote:Tim, you might want to check out this link which will tell you more about Yixing pots than you probably need to know but is highly interesting.

http://www.terebess.hu/english/yixing1.html
Thanks Tead Off. Billy's mood have been my go to yixing foundation link for over 4 yrs : ) pretty straight text book stuff, I fancy more on their Master's list with Chinese and English translation.

To good health Swozt :lol: Still boiling the new pots....

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by lamppost » Apr 22nd, '09, 16:03

Hi Tim,

I purchased two pots from Chen and noticed that they are heavier then other pots. Also the pots have a unique smell. I have tried my different ways to get rid of the smell but so far I have no luck. :roll:

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by Herb_Master » Apr 22nd, '09, 18:41

lamppost wrote:Hi Tim,

I purchased two pots from Chen and noticed that they are heavier then other pots. Also the pots have a unique smell. I have tried my different ways to get rid of the smell but so far I have no luck. :roll:
I have thought about ordering from Chen, and was even contemplating buying more than 1 of the same pot in order to try side by side tasting. I noticed however that the web sites proclaim all items have a current stock level of 1. :roll:

I wonder if they have not been in the habit of reflecting true stock levels or whether they manufacture a line whenever it sells out. I would have thought it would be easier (for a potter to get into the groove - so to speak) to make many identical/similar items at the same sitting!

If they do make them one by one as items sell might that account for the freshness?

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by finddream2020 » Apr 22nd, '09, 23:28

lamppost wrote:Hi Tim,

I purchased two pots from Chen and noticed that they are heavier then other pots. Also the pots have a unique smell. I have tried my different ways to get rid of the smell but so far I have no luck. :roll:
frist, the clay we use is huanglong mt clay near our workshp, the clay is very pure. because the clay is pure, it is a little heavy than the pot mix with Chemical substances. most pot not buy in yixing always has a little chemical substances.becase the fake product is too much.

second, different artist has different Weight. even the pots made by my father self is different weight. because different temp and different Technology.

yes, the pot has unique smell, becasue it is too new, i think the pot may be the most new pot you can get because we are direct marketing. the smell is the casue of fire and clay.

but when you use a little time, it is ok. and smell is Non-toxic. only the smell of clay and the smell of fire the clay.
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by finddream2020 » Apr 22nd, '09, 23:45

Herb_Master wrote:
lamppost wrote:Hi Tim,

I purchased two pots from Chen and noticed that they are heavier then other pots. Also the pots have a unique smell. I have tried my different ways to get rid of the smell but so far I have no luck. :roll:
I have thought about ordering from Chen, and was even contemplating buying more than 1 of the same pot in order to try side by side tasting. I noticed however that the web sites proclaim all items have a current stock level of 1. :roll:

I wonder if they have not been in the habit of reflecting true stock levels or whether they manufacture a line whenever it sells out. I would have thought it would be easier (for a potter to get into the groove - so to speak) to make many identical/similar items at the same sitting!

If they do make them one by one as items sell might that account for the freshness?
oh, our main marketing is china, the amount is big, but we didn't Retail. and the buyer always put an order, we make pot according to the order.because they are retailer. if we retail we will Disturb the market, because the retailer will hard to sell.so the pot made by my father is more higher in china.so we are not too many stock. and the foreign marketing is only beginning, we don't know the amount of need. so the stock is alittle.
we think ec is very developed in foreign marketing. so we want use direct marketing. After a period of time, when we know foreign marketing, we will start more stock.
hope you can understand.

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by apache » Apr 23rd, '09, 08:32

lamppost wrote:Hi Tim,

I purchased two pots from Chen and noticed that they are heavier then other pots. Also the pots have a unique smell. I have tried my different ways to get rid of the smell but so far I have no luck. :roll:

I gently boiled mine two times for an hour each. First time with just water and second time with a lot of tea leaf. Each time after, I left the pot in the pan to cool down for about 4 or 5 hours. After that, it seems fine.

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by xuancheng » Apr 23rd, '09, 09:32

finddream2020 wrote: oh, our main marketing is china, the amount is big, but we didn't Retail. and the buyer always put an order, we make pot according to the order.because they are retailer. if we retail we will Disturb the market, because the retailer will hard to sell.so the pot made by my father is more higher in china.so we are not too many stock. and the foreign marketing is only beginning, we don't know the amount of need. so the stock is alittle.
we think ec is very developed in foreign marketing. so we want use direct marketing. After a period of time, when we know foreign marketing, we will start more stock.
hope you can understand.
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