Is this ugly or attractive

[Herb_Master]

My first impression is not favourable, but then I was not too impressed with all the Hagi offerings on these boards, but they have grown on me!



http://www.skip4tea.com/ under porcelain




Is this good value or way over the top!

How much is it worth?



Supposedly a -

Qing Dynasty Meng Chen Zisha Teapot

Also from

http://www.skip4tea.com/ under teaware


Going for 7080 Malaysian Ringits


US $ = 1,955

[zicheng]

Do you really need a Qing dynasty zisha teapot? What's wrong with a Hu dynasty one?

[xuancheng]

In my opinion you go to Asia far too much yourself to be buying any tea related item over the internet for $2,000 USD. Not that I wouldn't be tempted to do so myself (if I had the money) but even for a Qing dynasty item, you want to make sure it is of decent quality before you spend that much on it.

Also, since you have the opportunity to go to asia yourself, you might as well go shopping in person. Wouldn't it be so much more fun?

Judging by their stock, they are not likely to run out of Qing dynasty pots anytime soon.

[edit] That qing dynasty pot is from http://www.mingwrecks.com/sales/WanliPorcelain.html

I can't access that website without proxy, so I am not sure if that is where the zisha pots are. but they're in there.

There is another post on Teachat somewhere all about those pots from that website and whether or not they would be actually useful for brewing tea.

[TIM]

+1 to Xuancheng.


I use to think this is so cool when I was ten.... then.... I get older

[Odinsfury]

+1 to Xuancheng.

I use to think this is so cool when I was ten.... then.... I get older

Well this just goes to show that some people stop aging at ten years.

[babalian]

Umm... the "qin" Zi Sha pot's price is just too much for that kind of quality..
I have seen plenty of real Qin Zi Sha pots shaped beautifully (not made by famous artist) were only sold for 1000-1500 USD

[TIM]

+1 to Xuancheng.

I use to think this is so cool when I was ten.... then.... I get older

Well this just goes to show that some people stop aging at ten years.

rolling on the floor.... Perhaps when I get into my 80s and have money coming out of my nose, This might tickle my fancy?

[gingkoseto]

Is there a way to determine age of yixing, by modern technique or other means?

I believe a qing dynasty item is worth the price tag only if it can be proved to be a qing dynasty one. But of course I myself won't buy it even if it's worth the price

I once read an article talking about value of a few kinds of ming dynasty porcelain has been depreciated because modern forgery techniques can make porcelain ware that can pass even modern examination. After that, those ming porcelain items are still expensive, but by far not as marketable as before.

[orguz]

I would agree too; go to the tea ware shops yourself especially if one visits Asia often.

A place I was at in H.K took out 4 of the same pot and performed a pouring test, I chose one that poured nicer. It was Odarwin from Teachat that referred me to a few places for which I have to thank Tim (here at Teachat) for because he was kind enough to share that information with him.

I actually missed out on an opportunity to purchase some authentic "pls drink oolong tea" shui ping pots from a reliable store (which I found out later at the end of my trip)

[Tead Off]

Is there a way to determine age of yixing, by modern technique or other means?

I believe a qing dynasty item is worth the price tag only if it can be proved to be a qing dynasty one. But of course I myself won't buy it even if it's worth the price

I once read an article talking about value of a few kinds of ming dynasty porcelain has been depreciated because modern forgery techniques can make porcelain ware that can pass even modern examination. After that, those ming porcelain items are still expensive, but by far not as marketable as before.

The only test that will determine age on ceramics is a thermoluminescence (TL) test done for about $500. This requires taking a small sample of the clay (drilled from the bottom of the pot). TL tells you the last time the clay was fired.

What the TL doesn't tell you is if the pot is going to give you a good cup of tea!

[MarshalN]

Doesn't look Qing to me, republic, maybe...

And certainly not $2000........

[xuancheng]

Doesn't look Qing to me, republic, maybe...

And certainly not $2000........

It supposedly comes from a wrecked ship that sank around 1840.
As for the $2,000, I would agree wholeheartedly not worth it.


http://www.mingwrecks.com/

[chamekke]

I've always wondered: what is the attraction to buyers for wares from wrecked or sunken ships? Aside from the romance factor, that is.

[bi lew chun]

Probably the lust factor.

[Herb_Master]

Doesn't look Qing to me, republic, maybe...

And certainly not $2000........

It supposedly comes from a wrecked ship that sank around 1840.
As for the $2,000, I would agree wholeheartedly not worth it.


http://www.mingwrecks.com/

These are the comments I was looking for, anyone who imagined I had more than $80 dollars to spend on a pot must have been confusing me with someone else

I stumbled on the site searching for something else, and when I opened the teaware page and saw the prices I was shocked.

Currently I have one visit a year to Malaysia, and that is all I can afford, most of my costs are found by my hostess. Similarly she has one visit a year to Europe and most of her costs are found by me. But next year she has indicated it would be nice if we could visit China - so maybe I will get there otherwise any purchases I make will be limited to Malaysia or the internet.