#1 Yixing Detective Agency

[Tead Off]

I'm hoping once again for some identification from all you Yixing detectives out there.

Here are 2 more pots that I bought about 20 years ago. The 1st is red, the 2nd is purple.

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2nd pot

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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Ig5JW2vCr8I/Sf61v ... 20chop.jpg

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Thanks again for any help identifying artist, etc.[/img]

[xuancheng]

This says ”春羔什锦“ The spring lambs, many and various.

but I think i got the 2nd character wrong.

[gingkoseto]

This says ”春羔什锦“ The spring lambs, many and various.

but I think i got the 2nd character wrong.

Could it be a 羕, which is almost equal to the right side of 漾, flowing, full body of water?

[Tead Off]

After all the good replies I got the first time I asked for help with a chop, I'm quite disappointed that all the Chinese speakers can't lend a hand. C'mon posters, I know the knowledge base here is better than this!

Nobody else wants to take a swing at identifying the makers of these 2 pots?

[xuancheng]

After all the good replies I got the first time I asked for help with a chop, I'm quite disappointed that all the Chinese speakers can't lend a hand. C'mon posters, I know the knowledge base here is better than this!

Nobody else wants to take a swing at identifying the makers of these 2 pots?

Lesser Seal Script (小篆 Xiaozhuan), or Hsiao-chuan, is an archaic form of Chinese calligraphy.

If you pay for me to get a PhD specializing in Ancient Chinese scripts, I will help with as many pots as you like. Chinese speakers still need a degree to read this stuff. The only way to figure out the artist is by the seal which are usually in this script. You can show the Mengchen seal to many posters here and they will recognize it as well as some other very common seals.

The Caoshu on the bottom of that pot we tried to translate has a character I said looked like 羔 (and it doesn't look much like it) and Ginko said it looked like 羕, which I am not sure is a character...(She never claimed it was)

We haven't forgotten about you, but it's not that simple.

[gingkoseto]

Ginko said it looked like 羕, which I am not sure is a character...(She never claimed it was)

Oh it is a character Not available in simplified mandarin input system. If you use traditional Chinese input you will find it. In simplified Chinese, it's covered by the meaning of 漾.

What you said is very true. Not using it on daily basis, most Chinese don't even know all the traditional Chinese characters. And some ancient characters almost look like contemporary painting

[gingkoseto]

Tead off, I did forget about the other chops because the last one is more intriguing But since I have no background knowledge about yixing teapot workers, I still know nothing about the pots after recognizing some names.

The first pot's chop saids, “made by Wu Yu Qun" （吳玉群製） The third character of the maker's name “群“ has the right part “羊“ under the left part （君）

The second pot's handle chop shows a last name “顧“ only, without a first name (and the bottom chop is not a name, but most likely a poem or expression). Maybe there are some more chops under the lid telling names?

All your pots are very nice! I wish I had been teapot shopping 20 years ago!

[xuancheng]

Ginko said it looked like 羕, which I am not sure is a character...(She never claimed it was)

Oh it is a character Not available in simplified mandarin input system. If you use traditional Chinese input you will find it. In simplified Chinese, it's covered by the meaning of 漾.

What you said is very true. Not using it on daily basis, most Chinese don't even know all the traditional Chinese characters. And some ancient characters almost look like contemporary painting

I want your dictionary! (Or maybe its just your character skillz ) My good dictionary from Taiwan doesn't have 羕, just 漾

[gingkoseto]

Ginko said it looked like 羕, which I am not sure is a character...(She never claimed it was)

Oh it is a character Not available in simplified mandarin input system. If you use traditional Chinese input you will find it. In simplified Chinese, it's covered by the meaning of 漾.

What you said is very true. Not using it on daily basis, most Chinese don't even know all the traditional Chinese characters. And some ancient characters almost look like contemporary painting

I want your dictionary! (Or maybe its just your character skillz ) My good dictionary from Taiwan doesn't have 羕, just 漾

I used the "Pinyin" on Mac computer's language input system. I guess it's a traditional Chinese input system developed by Taiwan and has more characters than the traditional character system most commonly used in mainland.

[Tead Off]

Thanks to both Xuancheng and Gingko. I am still waiting for our yixing experts to chime in. I know there are some very knowledgeable folks here that will be able to further my investigation. In any case, the 3 pots I have posted are my workhorses. They are the first pots I bought when I was first introduced to good Chinese tea. I was lucky because they all brew well and I never had to buy lots of equipment to get that 'special' one most tea drinkers seek. For me, it has always been about the tea!

[xuancheng]

Thanks to both Xuancheng and Gingko. I am still waiting for our yixing experts to chime in. I know there are some very knowledgeable folks here that will be able to further my investigation. In any case, the 3 pots I have posted are my workhorses. They are the first pots I bought when I was first introduced to good Chinese tea. I was lucky because they all brew well and I never had to buy lots of equipment to get that 'special' one most tea drinkers seek. For me, it has always been about the tea!

You might want to look for other chops on your zisha piece.(Under the lid?) As Ginko said, we only have a surname to go on for that one. That and the poetry on the bottom may not go very far towards identifying the pot.

[finddream2020]

the frist pot made by wu yuqun, he is a good friend of my father, he born in 1970 and work in 5# zisha factory long time ago, he create yuqun zisha workshop in 2000, he is good at zhu ni traditional pot.

what the second pot write is "春羕什锦",春羕is the same as 春漾, this word is from an old Poetry.

[xuancheng]

what the second pot write is "春羕什锦",春羕is the same as 春漾, this word is from an old Poetry.

The question now is, "which poem?"

[finddream2020]

春漾

李聪
　　
遮云深处青杏花，
　　
小桥畔溪醉人家。
　　
游人闻路误步此，
　　
难忘姑娘红半颊。

[Tead Off]

Thanks to both Xuancheng and Gingko. I am still waiting for our yixing experts to chime in. I know there are some very knowledgeable folks here that will be able to further my investigation. In any case, the 3 pots I have posted are my workhorses. They are the first pots I bought when I was first introduced to good Chinese tea. I was lucky because they all brew well and I never had to buy lots of equipment to get that 'special' one most tea drinkers seek. For me, it has always been about the tea!

You might want to look for other chops on your zisha piece.(Under the lid?) As Ginko said, we only have a surname to go on for that one. That and the poetry on the bottom may not go very far towards identifying the pot.

Here are the chops on the lid:

Zisha: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ig5JW2vCr8I/SgOiQ ... 20chop.jpg

Red pot: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Ig5JW2vCr8I/SgOiR ... 20chop.jpg

Thanks to all!![/img]